Most lopsided trade you've ever been offered

IStillDream · 01-19-2017, 06:24 PM

Bilking the AI with 4 or 5 mediocre players for one star is one thing, but sometimes they just fixate on one player of yours and offer a ton in return. I'm at the trade deadline in 2018, and the Nationals want to do this deal with me. Granted, they're out of contention and Harper is about to be a free agent (and Strasburg is pitching like a #2), but still...damn. And it's not like they're in mass selloff mode either–there is literally no other player in my system (and I have loads of top propsects) they would take 1 on 1 for Harper, and the only other player they would take for Strasburg is Chris Sale.

I'm sorely tempted to take the deal, but I think for their sake I'll just take one of them.

What's the most lopsided deal you've seen the AI want?

(EDIT: To be clear, this wasn't an email offer.)

RchW · 01-19-2017, 06:32 PM

I've never been offered a trade in my favor. Very annoying.

IStillDream · 01-19-2017, 06:38 PM

Well, I suppose offered is a slight misnomer. I went to the trade screen, put Strasburg up on their side, and clicked make this work–and was very surprised to see Vazquez pop up. I threw on Harper to see how much more they would want and they said "yep, still sounds good."

PSUColonel · 01-19-2017, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IStillDream

Bilking the AI with 4 or 5 mediocre players for one star is one thing, but sometimes they just fixate on one player of yours and offer a ton in return. I'm at the trade deadline in 2018, and the Nationals want to do this deal with me. Granted, they're out of contention and Harper is about to be a free agent (and Strasburg is pitching like a #2), but still...damn. And it's not like they're in mass selloff mode either–there is literally no other player in my system (and I have loads of top propsects) they would take 1 on 1 for Harper, and the only other player they would take for Strasburg is Chris Sale.

I'm sorely tempted to take the deal, but I think for their sake I'll just take one of them.

What's the most lopsided deal you've been offered?

settings? AI evaluation?

RchW · 01-19-2017, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by IStillDream

Well, I suppose offered is a slight misnomer. I went to the trade screen, put Strasburg up on their side, and clicked make this work–and was very surprised to see Vazquez pop up. I threw on Harper to see how much more they would want and they said "yep, still sounds good."

So it wasn't an email offer? Kinda misleading, wouldn't you say?

IStillDream · 01-19-2017, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

So it wasn't an email offer? Kinda misleading, wouldn't you say?

You're quite right, I should have described it differently. I was mostly just stunned that they wanted Vazquez this badly.

RchW · 01-19-2017, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IStillDream

You're quite right, I should have described it differently. I was mostly just stunned that they wanted Vazquez this badly.

The reason I made an issue of it is that we need to be very specific about what isn't working in-game. There is never an AI offer via email that one would take immediately.

What you have is a problem but you should repost it with a correct title so the problem is obvious to those who matter.

PSUColonel · 01-19-2017, 07:55 PM

Could you elaborate on what trading difficulty and AI evaluations settings you are using?

thorpegiovanni · 01-19-2017, 09:16 PM

Strasburg is injury prone though, and Harper is coming off a horrible year IRL.

WIUPIKE · 01-19-2017, 10:38 PM

Do you have ratings available for the players in trade. They are just names to the game and could of had talent swings.

SaoMagnifico · 01-20-2017, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thorpegiovanni

Strasburg is injury prone though, and Harper is coming off a horrible year IRL.

20/20 and an OPS north of .800 isn't horrible except by Harper/Trout/Correa standards.

IStillDream · 01-20-2017, 03:37 AM

Player pages for the three are attached. Certainly both are having down years by their lofty standards, which I'm sure helps, and the game does rate Vazquez quite highly.

Just checked and I'm on the default settings; I hadn't looked since importing the save from 16.

Honestly, I wasn't coming here to complain about this or raise it as a problem, I was just amused by it and curious as to what other people's experiences have been.

NoOne · 01-21-2017, 01:41 AM

i think i've seen 2 trades i was willing to take from the AI. one i do recall was not fruitful for me, lol, but it was a good trade or at least fair to both sides. i never look anymore. so, it's been quite a while since i actually looked at the emails, and since it happens so seldomly i don't miss out on much.

they must really want a catcher and the ai overvalues catchers with great defense. catchers and SP are great trade chips and when there is a weakness at that position they get desparate for good reason, but probably a bit too zealous with those 2 players. (shop player around usually make these types of trade partners stick out)

i can't believe that's after clickign the 'make this work' - i avoid that button because the deal always are terribly one-sided against me. i don't even have difficult settings.

IStillDream · 01-23-2017, 03:59 PM

Wanted to follow up here–I had a game crash not long after this and just reloaded to my last save, which was the day this trade was on the table. When I reloaded it, they were willing to do Strasburg for Vazquez straight up, but had no interest in including Harper. For a team in last place going into rebuilding mode, given how highly-valued catchers are in-game and that Vazquez is 4 star rated and cheap, that actually feels relatively reasonable. Presumably their willingness to trade them both for him was just a momentary bug, not a more fundamental flaw.

xgeoff · 06-14-2017, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

I've never been offered a trade in my favor. Very annoying.

While I won't say *never* it is very, very rare that I am offered anything close to reasonable.

And in terms of me creating a trade manually (without using the shop player mechanism), next to impossible.

StLee · 06-16-2017, 08:41 AM

Almost every trade offered by the AI is absolute bu******. Lopsided? They'll ask me for my ace for some scrub minor league first baseman. Every trade the AI offers is lospided in their favor and absolutely ridiculous. I have a player in my Fantasy Football League who is the same way. He'll offer you Chris Ivory for Aaron Rodgers and Antonio Brown in a straight-up trade. He's said before, "I hope you check drunk and accidentally hit the accept button." That's what OOTP AI GMs do, hope you check drunk and accidentally hit the accept button.

01-19-2017, 06:24 PM	#1
IStillDream Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 164	Most lopsided trade you've ever been offered Bilking the AI with 4 or 5 mediocre players for one star is one thing, but sometimes they just fixate on one player of yours and offer a ton in return. I'm at the trade deadline in 2018, and the Nationals want to do this deal with me. Granted, they're out of contention and Harper is about to be a free agent (and Strasburg is pitching like a #2), but still...damn. And it's not like they're in mass selloff mode either–there is literally no other player in my system (and I have loads of top propsects) they would take 1 on 1 for Harper, and the only other player they would take for Strasburg is Chris Sale. I'm sorely tempted to take the deal, but I think for their sake I'll just take one of them. What's the most lopsided deal you've seen the AI want? (EDIT: To be clear, this wasn't an email offer.) Attached Images Last edited by IStillDream; 01-19-2017 at 07:49 PM.

01-19-2017, 06:38 PM	#3
IStillDream Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 164	Well, I suppose offered is a slight misnomer. I went to the trade screen, put Strasburg up on their side, and clicked make this work–and was very surprised to see Vazquez pop up. I threw on Harper to see how much more they would want and they said "yep, still sounds good." Last edited by IStillDream; 01-19-2017 at 06:39 PM.

01-19-2017, 09:16 PM	#9
thorpegiovanni All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 550	Strasburg is injury prone though, and Harper is coming off a horrible year IRL. __________________

01-20-2017, 03:37 AM	#12
IStillDream Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 164	Player pages for the three are attached. Certainly both are having down years by their lofty standards, which I'm sure helps, and the game does rate Vazquez quite highly. Just checked and I'm on the default settings; I hadn't looked since importing the save from 16. Honestly, I wasn't coming here to complain about this or raise it as a problem, I was just amused by it and curious as to what other people's experiences have been. Attached Images

06-16-2017, 08:41 AM	#16
StLee Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA, formerly Korea Posts: 4,272	Almost every trade offered by the AI is absolute bu******. Lopsided? They'll ask me for my ace for some scrub minor league first baseman. Every trade the AI offers is lospided in their favor and absolutely ridiculous. I have a player in my Fantasy Football League who is the same way. He'll offer you Chris Ivory for Aaron Rodgers and Antonio Brown in a straight-up trade. He's said before, "I hope you check drunk and accidentally hit the accept button." That's what OOTP AI GMs do, hope you check drunk and accidentally hit the accept button. __________________ Fan of LSU sports (especially baseball and football), New Orleans Saints, New Orleans Pelicans, and Atlanta Braves (Dale Murphy for the HOF!). Current dynasties: Fallout 4's Commonwealth Baseball Organization Completed dynasty: Fallout: New Vegas' Mojave Baseball League Uniforms: My custom uniforms

01-19-2017, 06:32 PM	#2
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	I've never been offered a trade in my favor. Very annoying. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

01-19-2017, 07:55 PM	#8
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,988 Blog Entries: 37	Could you elaborate on what trading difficulty and AI evaluations settings you are using?

01-19-2017, 10:38 PM	#10
WIUPIKE All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nashville Area Posts: 1,257	Do you have ratings available for the players in trade. They are just names to the game and could of had talent swings.

01-21-2017, 01:41 AM	#13
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	i think i've seen 2 trades i was willing to take from the AI. one i do recall was not fruitful for me, lol, but it was a good trade or at least fair to both sides. i never look anymore. so, it's been quite a while since i actually looked at the emails, and since it happens so seldomly i don't miss out on much. they must really want a catcher and the ai overvalues catchers with great defense. catchers and SP are great trade chips and when there is a weakness at that position they get desparate for good reason, but probably a bit too zealous with those 2 players. (shop player around usually make these types of trade partners stick out) i can't believe that's after clickign the 'make this work' - i avoid that button because the deal always are terribly one-sided against me. i don't even have difficult settings.

01-23-2017, 03:59 PM	#14
IStillDream Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 164	Wanted to follow up here–I had a game crash not long after this and just reloaded to my last save, which was the day this trade was on the table. When I reloaded it, they were willing to do Strasburg for Vazquez straight up, but had no interest in including Harper. For a team in last place going into rebuilding mode, given how highly-valued catchers are in-game and that Vazquez is 4 star rated and cheap, that actually feels relatively reasonable. Presumably their willingness to trade them both for him was just a momentary bug, not a more fundamental flaw.