Too many diving catches

smiller · 04-19-2018, 08:37 AM

One aspect of 3-D play I hoped would be improved in 19 was the inordinate amount of diving catches made by outfielders each game. Unfortunately, I am seeing at least 3-4 such catches nearly every game (I've played out more than 100 games so far). I was also hoping some of these catches would be ruled trapped balls, awarding the batter a hit, but I have yet to see this happen. Hopefully this will be corrected in a future patch.

NoOne · 04-19-2018, 09:16 AM

a bunch of tim salmon clones?

some people like to dive even when unneccessary

just look at hockey... or soccer

Lukas Berger · 04-19-2018, 09:19 AM

It's certainly less than it was last year

I see maybe 1-3 per game, which doesn't seem unreasonable.

I'm sure Matt will continue to take a look at this and tweak it, so it's one of those 3d things that should keep getting better with time.

swoboda · 04-19-2018, 03:59 PM

I haven't found them to be excessive, I've played out around 40 games

endgame · 04-19-2018, 04:25 PM

I’m pleased with the progress. Still waiting to see the stretch or extension in the outfield that falls short of a catch, though.

Clavette · 04-19-2018, 04:32 PM

Ive seen jackie bradley jr do it 1-3 times per real life game. Must be a glitch

D-BacksJosh · 04-19-2018, 05:23 PM

3+ times per team is a stretch, happens but I would think rarely, unless you count catching the ball during a bent leg slide as a dive. Would like to see some bent leg slides by the way, not just head first dives. Mix it up a little. Also agree with the previous post, they should not always end in a catch.

curt · 04-19-2018, 06:09 PM

Darn. I thought it was just a reflection of my superior defensive outfielders.

loyd_moseby · 03-15-2019, 08:11 PM

i would like this tweaked in OOTP 20 as i see too many diving catches that are outs in this game.

IanIachimoe · 03-16-2019, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by swoboda

I haven't found them to be excessive, I've played out around 40 games

I play every game & agree.

NoOne · 03-16-2019, 06:11 PM

c'mon guys, they are just trying to get on ESPN and improve chances of an ASG selection because fanatics think diving for a ball that's unneccessary to dive for makes you good... LoL...

there's a lot of ham in professional sports. it's a natural outcome of an entitlled life.

Harry Hibbs · 03-16-2019, 07:44 PM

I've played out over 200 games, pitch by pitch (I'm an addict for the new 3D). It's been really balanced for me. Slightly more successful diving catches than balls trapped and not too many of either per game. Quite often I'll have games with none of either. My 2c is the balance is pretty darn good where it is.

NoOne · 03-17-2019, 06:06 AM

i bet it's related to 'selfish' label

jk

DaBears · 03-17-2019, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Hibbs

I've played out over 200 games, pitch by pitch (I'm an addict for the new 3D). It's been really balanced for me. Slightly more successful diving catches than balls trapped and not too many of either per game. Quite often I'll have games with none of either. My 2c is the balance is pretty darn good where it is.

Off subject, but curious who you play as to enjoy managing the games.

Harry Hibbs · 03-17-2019, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBears

Off subject, but curious who you play as to enjoy managing the games.

I'm GM / Manager of the SF Giants and "enjoy" might not be the right word. More like "suffering" through the games. We're in rebuild mode. Owner's expectation is "don't suck completely". How eloquent of Mr. Baer. I'm doing my best.

EarlWeaver4 · 03-17-2019, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Hibbs

I'm GM / Manager of the SF Giants and "enjoy" might not be the right word. More like "suffering" through the games. We're in rebuild mode. Owner's expectation is "don't suck completely". How eloquent of Mr. Baer. I'm doing my best.

I just finished two seasons as GM of the Orioles. We fired Buck Showalter mid-season in 2018 and replaced him with John Russell on an interim basis. Then, Peter Angelos died and his son took over as owner. The son is more understanding about our rebuild although our payroll got sliced. We also hired Joe Girardi as manager for 2019. We wound up going 64-98, one win more than the previous year. And our owner's expectation for 2019 was also "don't suck completely" which is a bit like asking Dylan Bundy to try not to get on the DL.

DaBears · 03-17-2019, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Hibbs

I'm GM / Manager of the SF Giants and "enjoy" might not be the right word. More like "suffering" through the games. We're in rebuild mode. Owner's expectation is "don't suck completely". How eloquent of Mr. Baer. I'm doing my best.

Interesting - I have done several games with SFG and find it to be an interesting team. My problem has been I tend to make moves that improve the team too much when acting as GM/MGR, but then get bored with the game when I let Evans run it. Bumgarner/Posey are two of my three favorite players in MLB, so I really like the team even with them getting older.

Qrusher14242 · 03-18-2019, 10:28 AM

my problem with the diving catches is that i don't think i've ever seen one not be caught or have it miss the outfielder and roll to the wall. if i see a diving animation start, i know its going to be an out.

DaBears · 03-18-2019, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Qrusher14242

my problem with the diving catches is that i don't think i've ever seen one not be caught or have it miss the outfielder and roll to the wall. if i see a diving animation start, i know its going to be an out.

Yep, that is the problem more than the number.

Harry Hibbs · 03-19-2019, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBears

Interesting - I have done several games with SFG and find it to be an interesting team. My problem has been I tend to make moves that improve the team too much when acting as GM/MGR, but then get bored with the game when I let Evans run it. Bumgarner/Posey are two of my three favorite players in MLB, so I really like the team even with them getting older.

I know we're way off topic here (aopolgies all), but Madbum's having a very poor 2019 season thus far for me. I am seriously contemplating trading him at the break but worried about declining value

Hope this isn't the case in RL!

04-19-2018, 08:37 AM	#1
smiller Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Pittsboro NC Posts: 424	Too many diving catches One aspect of 3-D play I hoped would be improved in 19 was the inordinate amount of diving catches made by outfielders each game. Unfortunately, I am seeing at least 3-4 such catches nearly every game (I've played out more than 100 games so far). I was also hoping some of these catches would be ruled trapped balls, awarding the batter a hit, but I have yet to see this happen. Hopefully this will be corrected in a future patch.

04-19-2018, 09:19 AM	#3
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 19,896	It's certainly less than it was last year I see maybe 1-3 per game, which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'm sure Matt will continue to take a look at this and tweak it, so it's one of those 3d things that should keep getting better with time. __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com Order Out of the Park Baseball 25! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here Last edited by Lukas Berger; 04-19-2018 at 04:33 PM.

04-19-2018, 03:59 PM	#4
swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,205	I haven't found them to be excessive, I've played out around 40 games __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson

04-19-2018, 04:25 PM	#5
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,843	I’m pleased with the progress. Still waiting to see the stretch or extension in the outfield that falls short of a catch, though. __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

04-19-2018, 05:23 PM	#7
D-BacksJosh Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 875	3+ times per team is a stretch, happens but I would think rarely, unless you count catching the ball during a bent leg slide as a dive. Would like to see some bent leg slides by the way, not just head first dives. Mix it up a little. Also agree with the previous post, they should not always end in a catch. Last edited by D-BacksJosh; 04-19-2018 at 05:27 PM.

04-19-2018, 09:16 AM	#2
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	a bunch of tim salmon clones? some people like to dive even when unneccessary just look at hockey... or soccer

04-19-2018, 04:32 PM	#6
Clavette Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Connecticut Posts: 371	Ive seen jackie bradley jr do it 1-3 times per real life game. Must be a glitch

04-19-2018, 06:09 PM	#8
curt Major Leagues Join Date: May 2013 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 456	Darn. I thought it was just a reflection of my superior defensive outfielders.

03-15-2019, 08:11 PM	#9
loyd_moseby Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 13	i would like this tweaked in OOTP 20 as i see too many diving catches that are outs in this game.

03-16-2019, 06:11 PM	#11
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	c'mon guys, they are just trying to get on ESPN and improve chances of an ASG selection because fanatics think diving for a ball that's unneccessary to dive for makes you good... LoL... there's a lot of ham in professional sports. it's a natural outcome of an entitlled life.

03-16-2019, 07:44 PM	#12
Harry Hibbs Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: San Jose Posts: 199	I've played out over 200 games, pitch by pitch (I'm an addict for the new 3D). It's been really balanced for me. Slightly more successful diving catches than balls trapped and not too many of either per game. Quite often I'll have games with none of either. My 2c is the balance is pretty darn good where it is.

03-17-2019, 06:06 AM	#13
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	i bet it's related to 'selfish' label jk

03-18-2019, 10:28 AM	#18
Qrusher14242 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: CA Posts: 1,253	my problem with the diving catches is that i don't think i've ever seen one not be caught or have it miss the outfielder and roll to the wall. if i see a diving animation start, i know its going to be an out. __________________ "Go then, there are other worlds than these"