Active Japanese boxers - Page 5

Jackyle · 11-01-2011, 04:12 PM

Suguru Muranaka - 285069
Japan
Flyweight
2004-
Rated by me
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Will post video soon.

won 15 (KO 4) + lost 2 (KO 0) + drawn 1

Jackyle · 11-01-2011, 04:21 PM

Mammoth Ueda
Japan
Heavyweight
2010-
Photo posted by Btown32 in the 2010-2019 section
Rated by me.

won 0 (KO 0) + lost 3 (KO 0) + drawn 0

Jackyle · 11-01-2011, 06:19 PM

Carlos Linares - 396046
Middleweight
Venezuela - fights out of Japan
2007-
Brother of Jorge Linares
Rated by me.
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Youtube video vs. Kevin Riding-In - Carlos Linares vs Kevin Riding-In - YouTube

won 9 (KO 8) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 0

Jackyle · 11-02-2011, 07:03 AM

Koji Numata - 285241
Japan
2002-
Welterweight
Rated by me.
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Youtube video vs. Tadashi Yuba - Tadashi Yuba vs Koji Numata - YouTube

won 16 (KO 11) + lost 6 (KO 2) + drawn 1

sepia warrior · 11-02-2011, 03:53 PM

I can't believe how many active Japanese fighters you've cranked out. The ratings are real solid from the test conrests I've run. Not to have you divulge any proprietary secrets, what sources other than youtube and boxrec do you use? How do you determine the conditioning ratings from the fighters particularly if there is no descriptive material in boxrec or other sources? I'm looking forward to seeing you rate many more fighters.

Jackyle · 11-02-2011, 07:28 PM

Thanks a lot Sepia! I use the two sources primarily that you mentioned as well as Sweet Boxing - Boxing Forum which is just awesome for videos. Then I try to read up on fighters on fightnews.com or boxingscene.com After that it's mostly guess work. For conditioning it's kind of tough with newer fighters because they don't have the body of work typically to let you know if they will tire in the 8th, 9th 10th, or championship rounds. So I just use there body of work.. things like them getting stopped late, or seeing them visibly tire in a video. Some guys are just so hard to do in that area and knockdowns... For instance how would you rate Tyson before the Douglas fight? He always showed a good chin, and decent durability but he never had to work hard over 12 rounds. Tough.

I am glad you enjoyed these ratings. I only have a handful left, then I will take a short break and either go to Indonesia... or Poland. I am going to the Wach fight on Saturday and there are a few Polish boxers fighting so that might motivate me in that direction.

sepia warrior · 11-03-2011, 06:21 AM

The conditioning rating is one that is most speculative with my ratings too. I start with the presumption that most fighters are likely to be well-conditioned so I assign a 2 rating unless they fight frequently or infrequently. If I see fluctuations in weight from fight to fight I assign either a 3 or 4 rating. If I have specific information about the fighter such as management gripes, parties a lot, has evidenced mental or physical problems or whose performance is erratic then I assign one of the specialty ratings that fits most closely (5-12) I see conditioning as modeling the mental/physical shape the fighter is in going into the fight. The endurance rating is the one I use to model when the fighter should tire in a fight assuming normal punishment. I also use the length of their fights as the primary measuring stick. Because I rate fighters on their proficiency - whether they are a 4,6,8 or 10 round fighter - there is some correlation to endurance. If I rate a fighter as 6 in profiency, I'm unlikely to give the fighter more than 5 or 6 in endurance. It seems that the computer game differs from the board game in this regard. In the board game, you would adjust the fighter's base endurance rating to the length of the bout. It does not appear to be the case with with TBCB2.5. Maybe the design team will take a look at this before TBCB3.0

Regarding your Tyson example, perhaps I change his conditioning rating for the Douglas fight to 5 (party animal) or 12 (seldom trains). There were reports that he rarely trained in Tokyo and spent most of time with the Japanese ladies. With either of those conditioning ratings, he'll come into the fight anywhere from 35% to 70% of the time in less than good shape. If I was replaying the fight, I would just assign one of those ratings.

Indonesia and Poland seem like good choices as both have a number of decent unrated fighters.

a87star · 11-03-2011, 11:11 AM

Jackyle you know anything about this guy?

Yukinori Oguni - Boxer

He just won the OPBF super bantamweight title in his seventh pro fight against another prospect from the Philippines Roli Gasca.

Jackyle · 11-03-2011, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a87star

Jackyle you know anything about this guy?

Yukinori Oguni - Boxer

He just won the OPBF super bantamweight title in his seventh pro fight against another prospect from the Philippines Roli Gasca.

No I just saw that this AM that he beat the number 1 ranked Phillipino. I will look into him.

Thanks.

Jackyle · 11-04-2011, 07:21 AM

Masahiro Mizumoto - 376594
Jr. Middleweight
Japan
2006-
Rated by me.
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Youtube video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAFEaKivFbs

won 16 (KO 6) + lost 3 (KO 1) + drawn 2

Jackyle · 11-06-2011, 07:44 PM

Yuki Nasu
Japan
Jr. Bantamweight
2004-
Rated by Me.
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Youtube video vs. Naohiro Yanagi - 05

won 20 (KO 15) + lost 6 (KO 4) + drawn 0

Jackyle · 11-06-2011, 09:38 PM

Kyoichiro Shoji - 355121
Japan
Jr. Middleweight
2006-
Rated by me.
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Youtube video vs. Akinori Watanabe - Akinori Watanabe vs Kyoichiro Shoji - YouTube

won 9 (KO 3) + lost 3 (KO 1) + drawn 4

Jackyle · 11-07-2011, 08:00 AM

Go Onaga
Japan
2003-
Jr. Bantamweight
Rated by me
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Youtube video vs. Chansaknoi Sakrungruang - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1LuXoAxZ1s

won 17 (KO 12) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 2

Jackyle · 11-07-2011, 11:27 PM

Atsushi Kakutani - 445640
Japan
2008-
Flyweight
Rated by me.
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Youtube video vs. Wars Katsumata (4 knockdowns in 1 round, very exciting bout) - WARS KATSUMATA vs ATSUSHI KAKUTANI - YouTube

won 10 (KO 5) + lost 2 (KO 2) + drawn 0

Jackyle · 11-08-2011, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepia warrior

The conditioning rating is one that is most speculative with my ratings too. I start with the presumption that most fighters are likely to be well-conditioned so I assign a 2 rating unless they fight frequently or infrequently. If I see fluctuations in weight from fight to fight I assign either a 3 or 4 rating. If I have specific information about the fighter such as management gripes, parties a lot, has evidenced mental or physical problems or whose performance is erratic then I assign one of the specialty ratings that fits most closely (5-12) I see conditioning as modeling the mental/physical shape the fighter is in going into the fight. The endurance rating is the one I use to model when the fighter should tire in a fight assuming normal punishment. I also use the length of their fights as the primary measuring stick. Because I rate fighters on their proficiency - whether they are a 4,6,8 or 10 round fighter - there is some correlation to endurance. If I rate a fighter as 6 in profiency, I'm unlikely to give the fighter more than 5 or 6 in endurance. It seems that the computer game differs from the board game in this regard. In the board game, you would adjust the fighter's base endurance rating to the length of the bout. It does not appear to be the case with with TBCB2.5. Maybe the design team will take a look at this before TBCB3.0

Regarding your Tyson example, perhaps I change his conditioning rating for the Douglas fight to 5 (party animal) or 12 (seldom trains). There were reports that he rarely trained in Tokyo and spent most of time with the Japanese ladies. With either of those conditioning ratings, he'll come into the fight anywhere from 35% to 70% of the time in less than good shape. If I was replaying the fight, I would just assign one of those ratings.

Indonesia and Poland seem like good choices as both have a number of decent unrated fighters.

Sepia, this info is very useful, and helpful. I stayed away from doing much of anything regarding profiency, and underestimated conditioning. I am now starting to give it much more of a priority. Thanks.

Jackyle · 11-08-2011, 09:15 PM

Kenji Oba - 285411
Japan
Jr. Bantamweight
2002-
Rated by me.
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Youtube video vs. Yota Sato - Yota Sato vs Kenji Oba - 2011-11-01 - YouTube

won 21 (KO 16) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 2

Jackyle · 11-09-2011, 08:28 AM

Wars Katsumata - 388026
Flyweight
Philippines - fights out of Japan
2007-
Rated by me.
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Youtube video vs. Koji Itagaki - WARS KATSUMATA vs KOJI ITAGAKI, FLYWEIGHT 8R - YouTube

won 15 (KO 13) + lost 5 (KO 3) + drawn 0

Jackyle · 11-10-2011, 07:20 AM

Shigetaka Ikehara - 279296
2003-2006
FLY (Yokohama, Japan)
12-0-1 (9)
Rated by Me.
Photo posted in the 2000-2009 section

Youtube video vs. Rocky Fuentes - Shigetaka Ikehara vs Rocky Fuentes 2010 - YouTube

won 22 (KO 18) + lost 2 (KO 1) + drawn 2

Jackyle · 11-11-2011, 06:53 AM

Toyoto Shiraishi
Japan
Jr. Banatamweight
2005-
Rated by me.
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Dailymotion video vs. Pongsak Pongcharoen - ãƒ‡ã‚¤ãƒªãƒ¼ãƒ¢ãƒ¼ã‚·ãƒ§ãƒ³ - Toyoto Shiraishi Project Vol.1 - ã‚¹ãƒãƒ¼ãƒ„ï¼†ï¼¸ã‚¹ãƒãƒ¼ãƒ„ å‹•ç”»

won 21 (KO 10) + lost 5 (KO 0) + drawn 1

Jackyle · 11-11-2011, 06:58 AM

Yuki Kamiya - 331146
Japan
Jr. Bantamweight
2005-
Rated by me
Photo in the 2000-2009 section

Dailymotion video vs. Toyoto Shiraishi - ãƒ‡ã‚¤ãƒªãƒ¼ãƒ¢ãƒ¼ã‚·ãƒ§ãƒ³ - Toyoto Shiraishi Project Vol.4-1 - ã‚¹ãƒãƒ¼ãƒ„ï¼†ï¼¸ã‚¹ãƒãƒ¼ãƒ„ å‹•ç”»

won 7 (KO 0) + lost 6 (KO 1) + drawn 0

11-03-2011, 11:11 AM	#88
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,850	Jackyle you know anything about this guy? Yukinori Oguni - Boxer He just won the OPBF super bantamweight title in his seventh pro fight against another prospect from the Philippines Roli Gasca. __________________ Women Boxing Archive Network Womens International Boxing Association

11-02-2011, 03:53 PM	#85
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	I can't believe how many active Japanese fighters you've cranked out. The ratings are real solid from the test conrests I've run. Not to have you divulge any proprietary secrets, what sources other than youtube and boxrec do you use? How do you determine the conditioning ratings from the fighters particularly if there is no descriptive material in boxrec or other sources? I'm looking forward to seeing you rate many more fighters.

11-02-2011, 07:28 PM	#86
Jackyle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 9,474	Thanks a lot Sepia! I use the two sources primarily that you mentioned as well as Sweet Boxing - Boxing Forum which is just awesome for videos. Then I try to read up on fighters on fightnews.com or boxingscene.com After that it's mostly guess work. For conditioning it's kind of tough with newer fighters because they don't have the body of work typically to let you know if they will tire in the 8th, 9th 10th, or championship rounds. So I just use there body of work.. things like them getting stopped late, or seeing them visibly tire in a video. Some guys are just so hard to do in that area and knockdowns... For instance how would you rate Tyson before the Douglas fight? He always showed a good chin, and decent durability but he never had to work hard over 12 rounds. Tough. I am glad you enjoyed these ratings. I only have a handful left, then I will take a short break and either go to Indonesia... or Poland. I am going to the Wach fight on Saturday and there are a few Polish boxers fighting so that might motivate me in that direction.

11-03-2011, 06:21 AM	#87
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	The conditioning rating is one that is most speculative with my ratings too. I start with the presumption that most fighters are likely to be well-conditioned so I assign a 2 rating unless they fight frequently or infrequently. If I see fluctuations in weight from fight to fight I assign either a 3 or 4 rating. If I have specific information about the fighter such as management gripes, parties a lot, has evidenced mental or physical problems or whose performance is erratic then I assign one of the specialty ratings that fits most closely (5-12) I see conditioning as modeling the mental/physical shape the fighter is in going into the fight. The endurance rating is the one I use to model when the fighter should tire in a fight assuming normal punishment. I also use the length of their fights as the primary measuring stick. Because I rate fighters on their proficiency - whether they are a 4,6,8 or 10 round fighter - there is some correlation to endurance. If I rate a fighter as 6 in profiency, I'm unlikely to give the fighter more than 5 or 6 in endurance. It seems that the computer game differs from the board game in this regard. In the board game, you would adjust the fighter's base endurance rating to the length of the bout. It does not appear to be the case with with TBCB2.5. Maybe the design team will take a look at this before TBCB3.0 Regarding your Tyson example, perhaps I change his conditioning rating for the Douglas fight to 5 (party animal) or 12 (seldom trains). There were reports that he rarely trained in Tokyo and spent most of time with the Japanese ladies. With either of those conditioning ratings, he'll come into the fight anywhere from 35% to 70% of the time in less than good shape. If I was replaying the fight, I would just assign one of those ratings. Indonesia and Poland seem like good choices as both have a number of decent unrated fighters.