Do players die? - Page 3

Padreman · 07-10-2013, 10:10 PM

Some users don't want players too die fine. Some want a 150 year old Babe Ruth hitting cleanup hey that's fine, Maybe your pretending his half elf and half brothers with Legolas. But someone of us don't want to pretend that someone of us want the realism. We should at least have the option to have players die or be immortal.

Hankyu Braves · 07-16-2013, 01:29 PM

Is it possible if one writes an appropriate storyline to get rid of these players somehow and send them to another pool or something of that effect?
For example, once they reach 65 there's a random chance that they could die, with this number increasing over time.

rasnell · 07-16-2013, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hankyu Braves

Is it possible if one writes an appropriate storyline to get rid of these players somehow and send them to another pool or something of that effect?
For example, once they reach 65 there's a random chance that they could die, with this number increasing over time.

Does the database actually include the dates of death of historical players? Any way to turn that option on in future historic releases?

Tycobbler · 07-16-2013, 03:45 PM

I'd vote no to death and like to have their pics freeze the day they walk away from the game for good.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

olivertheorem · 07-16-2013, 09:00 PM

I like having their pics freeze once they retire, but I still want to have them eventually die. It's a big news story in sports when a former great passes away, and we don't have that in OOTP.

Padreman · 08-05-2013, 06:12 PM

The question would be how hard it will be for the game creators to go and add the Date of Death for 10'000's of players. And if you play a historical game will players still die on the day they died in real life? And about those that died prematurely? For example your the Pirates in the 1970's your Roberto Clemente is just money for you, does he die unexpectedly like in real life and you lose a great player or does he continue to live?

BigCity · 08-05-2013, 10:03 PM

How about we add an on-off switch to this option as well... thus pleasing everyone?

Mike67 · 08-05-2013, 10:55 PM

You can have death in the game.. I play both OOTP and Baseball Mogul for years now. I'd rather see a dead player than someone who's 160 sitting in the retired players list..

Just add a projected date of death field and when they die freeze the age.. If they're in the HOF, then have a news item about the person dying. Same if a player dies in some manner.. When a player dies the coach/unretired options could be disabled.

Electrovik · 08-29-2013, 01:53 PM

I'd really like that to become an option too!

It would add realism to the game! Man I would be mad if it happened to my star player! But man I would love it!

At the same time, we already have Career Ending Injury that can happen anytime and is kind of a death sentence for a player... but in a different way.

Overall, I think it would add a great HUMAN layer to the game.

I also think it would be a great way of remembering the players when they die.

But it should be an option. Personally, I would enjoy it but others might not... so let's keep everyone happy!

JohnHoward · 08-29-2013, 04:06 PM

Apparently, nearly three month old threads don't die either.

ashantewarrier · 08-29-2013, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kq76

Dying? There's no dying in baseball!

Markus is weird sometimes. There's no women in OOTP and there's no dying in OOTP. But hobbits and Ghanaians, those we can have.

Difference is Ghanaians are real, Hobbits are not.

D-BacksJosh · 08-29-2013, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashantewarrier

Difference is Ghanaians are real, Hobbits are not.

Yes but I heard that after successfully establishing some baseball camps in Ghana, the Milwaukee Brewers are going to focus full attention on finding Middle-earth to find some.

olivertheorem · 08-29-2013, 09:19 PM

I just want to clarify that the only player death I want in the game is old retirees.

Hockey13Playa · 09-13-2013, 09:01 AM

Being new to OOTP as of a week ago I wondered about this...

I think it SHOULD be included; with an on or off option and then possibly a couple of sub category on off options:

Death over time option [on-off]
Random death option to active players/personnel [on-off]
Percentage of chance a random active player/personnel dies [1-100]

That's what I got for a start... If anyone has more sub-options then I can include them as well. That way everyone is satisfied on if they want death in there game or not!

As far as facegen goes...I think then the players facegen could age and then once they pass away there image would be preserved at that state; everything on the players page would be become grayed...

Also with that being said I think the owner thing needs some fixing... When an owner dies I think we as a GM should have the option of appointing a new owner. There can be a database titled "money moguls" or something with a list of "wealthy" people who could buy the team. (This list can just be fictional or maybe take real life names from Forbes and owners from other sports leagues that may want to dip into the baseball world.) Each could have just a couple of different rating categories like the players; example Greed: Very High

You could use say something like this:

Big Spender: Very High
Intelligence: Average
Personal Connection with Team Players: Average
Using Resources for team growth: Low

I just made those up for an example but I think the owner side is dull when it comes to own dying and the "son" always takes over.

But as a starting foundation I think this would work. Seeing players live forever is a small irritating thing to me. If they don't want to get to involved in death they could just have it kind of happen in the background... Over time random player "dies" and they become grayed out with there facegen freezing. We don't need to see a death date on their profile or a league wide email saying so-and-so passed away; we would "just know" by seeing there grayed out profile. Of course with that being said not sure how you could implement active coaches or players passing away with no notifications...

Ok enough rambling but I'd like to have this incorporated.

joefromchicago · 09-13-2013, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey13Playa

I think it SHOULD be included; with an on or off option and then possibly a couple of sub category on off options:

Death over time option [on-off]
Random death option to active players/personnel [on-off]
Percentage of chance a random active player/personnel dies [1-100]

That's what I got for a start... If anyone has more sub-options then I can include them as well. That way everyone is satisfied on if they want death in there game or not!

I think those are some pretty good ideas.

The Game · 09-13-2013, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey13Playa

B
Also with that being said I think the owner thing needs some fixing... When an owner dies I think we as a GM should have the option of appointing a new owner. There can be a database titled "money moguls" or something with a list of "wealthy" people who could buy the team. (This list can just be fictional or maybe take real life names from Forbes and owners from other sports leagues that may want to dip into the baseball world.) Each could have just a couple of different rating categories like the players; example Greed: Very High

You could use say something like this:

Big Spender: Very High
Intelligence: Average
Personal Connection with Team Players: Average
Using Resources for team growth: Low

Best idea I have heard in 2 years. I always try to make my owners in my leagues real or fictional real. I started my MLB league in 1999, not a single owner from then owns a team. They have all died or sold the team. been hoping to lock owners so they dont sell or die because it is frustrating to have to go back and edit the old owner in.

ihatenames · 09-13-2013, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tycobbler

I'd vote no to death and like to have their pics freeze the day they walk away from the game for good.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

That's my preference as well. Just freeze their age and photo the day they retire. Problem solved.

Le Grande Orange · 09-13-2013, 01:22 PM

For news articles purposes, in any sale of a club by an owner, there's a simple formula that can be used to determine the price: the revenue the prior season times 2½. That is an average, of course, so for clubs in bigger markets the factor would be a little higher (perhaps as much as 3 times the revenue), and for clubs in smaller markets it'd be lower (perhaps as low as 2 times the revenue). But on average the sale price is about 2½ times the club's revenue.

BIG17EASY · 09-13-2013, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihatenames

That's my preference as well. Just freeze their age and photo the day they retire. Problem solved.

So then what happens for players who go on to be coaches? Coaches need to age or they'll coach for all eternity.

Le Grande Orange · 09-13-2013, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

So then what happens for players who go on to be coaches? Coaches need to age or they'll coach for all eternity.

They retire from coaching once they hit 70-75 years of age.

09-13-2013, 09:01 AM	#54
Hockey13Playa Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,541	Being new to OOTP as of a week ago I wondered about this... I think it SHOULD be included; with an on or off option and then possibly a couple of sub category on off options: Death over time option [on-off] Random death option to active players/personnel [on-off] Percentage of chance a random active player/personnel dies [1-100] That's what I got for a start... If anyone has more sub-options then I can include them as well. That way everyone is satisfied on if they want death in there game or not! As far as facegen goes...I think then the players facegen could age and then once they pass away there image would be preserved at that state; everything on the players page would be become grayed... Also with that being said I think the owner thing needs some fixing... When an owner dies I think we as a GM should have the option of appointing a new owner. There can be a database titled "money moguls" or something with a list of "wealthy" people who could buy the team. (This list can just be fictional or maybe take real life names from Forbes and owners from other sports leagues that may want to dip into the baseball world.) Each could have just a couple of different rating categories like the players; example Greed: Very High You could use say something like this: Big Spender: Very High Intelligence: Average Personal Connection with Team Players: Average Using Resources for team growth: Low I just made those up for an example but I think the owner side is dull when it comes to own dying and the "son" always takes over. But as a starting foundation I think this would work. Seeing players live forever is a small irritating thing to me. If they don't want to get to involved in death they could just have it kind of happen in the background... Over time random player "dies" and they become grayed out with there facegen freezing. We don't need to see a death date on their profile or a league wide email saying so-and-so passed away; we would "just know" by seeing there grayed out profile. Of course with that being said not sure how you could implement active coaches or players passing away with no notifications... Ok enough rambling but I'd like to have this incorporated. Last edited by Hockey13Playa; 09-13-2013 at 09:07 AM. Reason: Context

07-10-2013, 10:10 PM	#41
Padreman Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico (formally San Diego, CA.) Posts: 4,140 Blog Entries: 1	Some users don't want players too die fine. Some want a 150 year old Babe Ruth hitting cleanup hey that's fine, Maybe your pretending his half elf and half brothers with Legolas. But someone of us don't want to pretend that someone of us want the realism. We should at least have the option to have players die or be immortal.

07-16-2013, 01:29 PM	#42
Hankyu Braves All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 496	Is it possible if one writes an appropriate storyline to get rid of these players somehow and send them to another pool or something of that effect? For example, once they reach 65 there's a random chance that they could die, with this number increasing over time.

07-16-2013, 03:45 PM	#44
Tycobbler All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 20 minutes from Comerica Park Posts: 1,955	I'd vote no to death and like to have their pics freeze the day they walk away from the game for good. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

07-16-2013, 09:00 PM	#45
olivertheorem All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,919	I like having their pics freeze once they retire, but I still want to have them eventually die. It's a big news story in sports when a former great passes away, and we don't have that in OOTP.

08-05-2013, 06:12 PM	#46
Padreman Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico (formally San Diego, CA.) Posts: 4,140 Blog Entries: 1	The question would be how hard it will be for the game creators to go and add the Date of Death for 10'000's of players. And if you play a historical game will players still die on the day they died in real life? And about those that died prematurely? For example your the Pirates in the 1970's your Roberto Clemente is just money for you, does he die unexpectedly like in real life and you lose a great player or does he continue to live?

08-05-2013, 10:03 PM	#47
BigCity All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South Shore, Great Lakes Posts: 1,386	How about we add an on-off switch to this option as well... thus pleasing everyone?

08-05-2013, 10:55 PM	#48
Mike67 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 98	You can have death in the game.. I play both OOTP and Baseball Mogul for years now. I'd rather see a dead player than someone who's 160 sitting in the retired players list.. Just add a projected date of death field and when they die freeze the age.. If they're in the HOF, then have a news item about the person dying. Same if a player dies in some manner.. When a player dies the coach/unretired options could be disabled.

08-29-2013, 01:53 PM	#49
Electrovik Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Québec Posts: 152	I'd really like that to become an option too! It would add realism to the game! Man I would be mad if it happened to my star player! But man I would love it! At the same time, we already have Career Ending Injury that can happen anytime and is kind of a death sentence for a player... but in a different way. Overall, I think it would add a great HUMAN layer to the game. I also think it would be a great way of remembering the players when they die. But it should be an option. Personally, I would enjoy it but others might not... so let's keep everyone happy!

08-29-2013, 04:06 PM	#50
JohnHoward All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 624	Apparently, nearly three month old threads don't die either.

08-29-2013, 09:19 PM	#53
olivertheorem All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,919	I just want to clarify that the only player death I want in the game is old retirees.

09-13-2013, 01:22 PM	#58
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,405	For news articles purposes, in any sale of a club by an owner, there's a simple formula that can be used to determine the price: the revenue the prior season times 2½. That is an average, of course, so for clubs in bigger markets the factor would be a little higher (perhaps as much as 3 times the revenue), and for clubs in smaller markets it'd be lower (perhaps as low as 2 times the revenue). But on average the sale price is about 2½ times the club's revenue.