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01-24-2013, 04:21 PM | #1 |
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Promotion/Relegation?
Will OOTP 14 be able to handle a promotion/relegation type of league with un or loosely affiliated minor leagues?
While I'm shooting for the moon, a soccer style transfer market as opposed to trades would also be pretty cool. Basically no one is traded, players are bought and sold and they renegotiate and have to approve the contract when they move to the new team. Last edited by Scruff; 01-24-2013 at 04:22 PM. |
01-24-2013, 04:41 PM | #2 |
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Pretty sure Markus has said a Promotion/Relegation system would be very complicated to include. I could be mistaken though. It's something I would like to see as well, along with double elimination playoffs. Maybe in OOTP 15
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01-24-2013, 07:02 PM | #3 | |
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I'm hoping they are just saving this feature for a road to release piece... |
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01-24-2013, 11:42 PM | #4 | |
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I doubt that you will ever see it. The last discussion of it turned up the fact that it would require a total rewrite of the financial modules.
Demand for it is small, programming requirements huge...see my .sig
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01-25-2013, 12:15 AM | #5 |
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And even so I'm still hugely disappointed. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought for sure that someone in the know said this feature would be included.
I still have my fingers crossed that it will be unveiled in a future post. |
01-25-2013, 06:39 AM | #6 |
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No, this will not be part of OOTP 14.. This is a LOT of coding work and can be done by the user manually already (using the league structure editor)...
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01-25-2013, 09:36 AM | #7 |
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01-25-2013, 09:48 AM | #8 |
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I'm happy this never made it in.
How about we focus and make the MLB aspect even better before we start with stuff like this. I'd like a full Nippon league with history and stats or minor league assocataions first. |
01-25-2013, 09:49 AM | #9 | |
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...aaaaand it's official.
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01-25-2013, 10:20 AM | #10 |
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How much better would it have to get before you'd consider something like this as okay?
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01-25-2013, 01:56 PM | #11 |
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The most important thing for promotion/relegation would be to code the AI to recognize the consequences of relegation.
Currently it's pretty easy to run a P/R universe, except AI teams can't realize that finishing in a relegation position is bad. An option to designate leagues as P/R and to select the positions which qualify for P or R, so that the AI can adjust it's strategy, would make P/R feasible for those willing to manually perform the P/R.
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01-25-2013, 03:03 PM | #12 |
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I've always done it manually. So at least there is a way to get it done, although it would be easier if it did it automatically. But baseball rules are different to how football works
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01-25-2013, 04:17 PM | #13 | |
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Changes to spring training, rookie invites and all the other issues with it Minor league league totals need to be worked, don't think they have been updated in years and can produce funny results. Shared all star games like the Triple A does, would like full team and award histories for them as well. Working winter leagues Nippon leagues and independent leagues with full history as well Those are just a few ways to improve the MLB and other major important leagues before any time is spent on the smaller leagues that do use regulation. It would be nice to have in, but it's near the bottom of my list |
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01-25-2013, 08:23 PM | #15 | |
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I don't think anyone would suggest that something like Promotion / Relegation should be a priority anyway. The problem, I think, is that people (and I'll admit that I'm guilty of this) post stuff that they would like but is low priority, but don't post stuff that would improve the engine but isn't glamourous. Of course as a developer you have to balance the glamourous new features with improving the core every year, and I'd wager it's not an easy balance to make. |
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01-27-2013, 01:08 AM | #17 | |
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To me, automatic promotion/relegation is the top feature request. I know I'm not the only one. The MLB stuff in itself is relatively unimportant to me. I rarely play with real world settings. I realize that the overwhelming majority of players do play with the MLB setup and that's fine, but there are other types of players who prefer their own customized leagues and we desperately want this feature added. I must admit that I'm very disappointed that this has been passed over yet again. There's always next year, I guess. |
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01-27-2013, 01:46 AM | #18 | |
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01-27-2013, 08:21 AM | #19 |
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01-27-2013, 08:45 AM | #20 |
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Here's how I see it. FHM is kinda same type of game with OOTP, the coding of two games is probably quite similiar. People would eventually want to see whatever is avaliable in FHM is avaliable in OOTP. The converse is true as well. Therefore, whenever promotion/relegation and international tournament appears in FHM, I would really like to see them in OOTP shortly after as well
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