1st OFBA Awards

Kurtis R. · 05-02-2002, 07:54 PM

The first OFBA awards are now final!!

<a href="http://www.simleagues.com/ofba/" target="_blank">Check it out</a>

Kurtis
OFBA

Aussie Mark · 05-03-2002, 01:03 AM

I'm not sure what you're smoking, but your awards criteria is definitely flawed. You rank Heritage League Baseball in the top 10 (I'm in the HTB sister league so have no axe to grind against Cooley) that is in it's inaugural season, yet Crackerjack (CBL) that is in it's 8th season ("history"), with a great website, lots of activity, and has negligible owner turnover doesn't rank in the top 10.

LivnLegend · 05-03-2002, 04:26 AM

Wouldn't worry too much about it Mark. He did point on his front page it is purely his own opinion and apparently to be nominated you have to send him your league info so good leagues may be omitted for not realizing they have to nominate themselves. I regularly stop by all of the OOTP leagues I am aware of and still come across new ones (to me) every week.

With just one person's opinion, the results can differ greatly from what you or I think. For example, Canadian Baseball League probably would not make most OOTP'ers top 10 list but it is #5 on his. Similarly, Crackerjack and Baseball Maelstrom did not make his top ten, serious omissions in my opinion.
[side note, my comment should not taken as a rip on CBL, I have followed that league since it first started and it has improved tremendously over time]

Kurtis R. · 05-03-2002, 11:00 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Aussie Mark:
I'm not sure what you're smoking, but your awards criteria is definitely flawed. You rank Heritage League Baseball in the top 10 (I'm in the HTB sister league so have no axe to grind against Cooley) that is in it's inaugural season, yet Crackerjack (CBL) that is in it's 8th season ("history"), with a great website, lots of activity, and has negligible owner turnover doesn't rank in the top 10.<hr /></blockquote>Well.. if Crackerjack Baseball would have entered their league, maybe they would have ranked up there!!

JWay · 05-03-2002, 11:05 AM

Lets give him a break. Its only the first time. Its out there now we can get more leagues entered. And Leagues with history will have a little advantage until they win. But if you have the web site, owners and everything else. I thought it was a good first time

Kurtis R. · 05-03-2002, 11:16 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by LivnLegend:
For example, Canadian Baseball League probably would not make most OOTP'ers top 10 list but it is #5 on his. Similarly, Crackerjack and Baseball Maelstrom did not make his top ten, serious omissions in my opinion.
[side note, my comment should not taken as a rip on CBL, I have followed that league since it first started and it has improved tremendously over time]<hr /></blockquote>Canadian Baseball League, actually I don't think this is the league you are thinking of... click on the link and you will find out that this is not even an OOTP league... it is a BBpro league.

Like I said in the email I just sent to all the OFBA members... If the commissioners would read their emails.. this would not have occured! EVERY league was sent an email on how to enter their league into the judging!!!

This kind of thing really pisses me off.. guys start shooting their mouth off without knowing what the hell their talking about!!

Enter CBL next time... and DMBL and I will judge it!!

Kurtis R. · 05-03-2002, 11:21 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JWay:
Lets give him a break. Its only the first time. Its out there now we can get more leagues entered. And Leagues with history will have a little advantage until they win. But if you have the web site, owners and everything else. I thought it was a good first time<hr /></blockquote>Shouldn't leagues with history have an advantage? Should a league that just starts up win first place.. and the next year they fold?

Leagues with history show me that they have been around for more than a season and they aren't going to fold tomorrow.

[ 05-03-2002, 05:22 PM: Message edited by: CUBL Commish ]

Crackerjack · 05-03-2002, 11:24 AM

First off thanks for the mention (Mark), Second I did enter our league (CBL).Not sure why you did not get it as my e-mail has it as sent (sent in on a whim, not usually intrested in that stuff)? I did get an email from the OFBA that the voting was complete and to take a look at the final tallies.Third its not a big deal, these league are for fun. The key to a great league is not its site,commish or all the extras..its the owners. The best ones are where the original owners stay with the league, send in lineups, make trades and contribute. Our league has all that. Lastly I think the gentleman that did the OFBA site and voting did a good job. It does take a lot to wreak the jabbing by everyone for not picking their league for any amount of reasons. Kudos!!

Bird

[ 05-03-2002, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: Crackerjack ]

Kurtis R. · 05-03-2002, 12:36 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Crackerjack:
First off thanks for the mention (Mark), Second I did enter our league (CBL).Not sure why you did not get it as my e-mail has it as sent (sent in on a whim, not usually intrested in that stuff)?

Bird<hr /></blockquote>I did recieve an email for you to enter OFBA, but I do not see CBL on the message board to be judged.

Some leagues did not want to be judged... some league just wanted the exposure... or whatever.. that is why I had the leagues that WANTED to be judged, sign up on the message board.

One more thing... every year the judging panel will grow... so every year the scores should get more and more accurate and not based on one persons opinion... they will be averaged out..

thanks
Kurtis
OFBA

[ 05-03-2002, 11:38 PM: Message edited by: CUBL Commish ]

Aussie Mark · 05-03-2002, 04:42 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by CUBL Commish:
[QUOTE]Well.. if Crackerjack Baseball would have entered their league, maybe they would have ranked up there!!<hr /></blockquote>Crackerjack is listed at the site

Aussie Mark · 05-03-2002, 04:49 PM

Sorry for mouthing off. You guys are right, it's not such a big deal, and it's only one person's opinion. I shouldn't post with lots of caffeine in my system :-)

Kurtis R. · 05-03-2002, 05:27 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Aussie Mark:
Crackerjack is listed at the site<hr /></blockquote>Yes Crackerjack is listed at the site, but is it signed up in the message board?

Ragin Cajun · 05-05-2002, 10:52 AM

First off: Thanks to Kurtis for having the brass to even attempt this venture.

Secondly: I've seen Mark (and actually been in a league with him) and know that he does not normally "shoot from the hip". I guess the caffeine levels were really peaking that day.

Anyway, thanks Kurtis for the hard work. The NBSL would like to thank you for finding us worth of the second place award and we will display the 2nd place ribbon proudly on our website. We will also continue to strive for excellence and attain the #1 ranking.

Any feedback Kurtis on how often you will be judging?

Kurtis R. · 05-05-2002, 07:30 PM

Twice a year.. every six months is the planned schedule right now. Next event will be at or near October.

I would do this more often, but it is a lot of work to do this... and I also have my own league that I run.. and it comes first.

thanks
Kurtis

05-03-2002, 01:03 AM	#2
Aussie Mark Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Downunder Posts: 489	I'm not sure what you're smoking, but your awards criteria is definitely flawed. You rank Heritage League Baseball in the top 10 (I'm in the HTB sister league so have no axe to grind against Cooley) that is in it's inaugural season, yet Crackerjack (CBL) that is in it's 8th season ("history"), with a great website, lots of activity, and has negligible owner turnover doesn't rank in the top 10. __________________ Cheers Mark

05-03-2002, 04:26 AM	#3
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Wouldn't worry too much about it Mark. He did point on his front page it is purely his own opinion and apparently to be nominated you have to send him your league info so good leagues may be omitted for not realizing they have to nominate themselves. I regularly stop by all of the OOTP leagues I am aware of and still come across new ones (to me) every week. With just one person's opinion, the results can differ greatly from what you or I think. For example, Canadian Baseball League probably would not make most OOTP'ers top 10 list but it is #5 on his. Similarly, Crackerjack and Baseball Maelstrom did not make his top ten, serious omissions in my opinion. [side note, my comment should not taken as a rip on CBL, I have followed that league since it first started and it has improved tremendously over time] __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

05-03-2002, 11:00 AM	#4
Kurtis R. All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,105	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Aussie Mark: <strong>I'm not sure what you're smoking, but your awards criteria is definitely flawed. You rank Heritage League Baseball in the top 10 (I'm in the HTB sister league so have no axe to grind against Cooley) that is in it's inaugural season, yet Crackerjack (CBL) that is in it's 8th season ("history"), with a great website, lots of activity, and has negligible owner turnover doesn't rank in the top 10.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well.. if Crackerjack Baseball would have entered their league, maybe they would have ranked up there!! __________________ CUBL Commissioner

05-03-2002, 11:16 AM	#6
Kurtis R. All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,105	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LivnLegend: <strong>For example, Canadian Baseball League probably would not make most OOTP'ers top 10 list but it is #5 on his. Similarly, Crackerjack and Baseball Maelstrom did not make his top ten, serious omissions in my opinion. [side note, my comment should not taken as a rip on CBL, I have followed that league since it first started and it has improved tremendously over time]</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Canadian Baseball League, actually I don't think this is the league you are thinking of... click on the link and you will find out that this is not even an OOTP league... it is a BBpro league. Like I said in the email I just sent to all the OFBA members... If the commissioners would read their emails.. this would not have occured! EVERY league was sent an email on how to enter their league into the judging!!! This kind of thing really pisses me off.. guys start shooting their mouth off without knowing what the hell their talking about!! Enter CBL next time... and DMBL and I will judge it!! __________________ CUBL Commissioner

05-03-2002, 11:21 AM	#7
Kurtis R. All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,105	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by JWay: <strong>Lets give him a break. Its only the first time. Its out there now we can get more leagues entered. And Leagues with history will have a little advantage until they win. But if you have the web site, owners and everything else. I thought it was a good first time</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Shouldn't leagues with history have an advantage? Should a league that just starts up win first place.. and the next year they fold? Leagues with history show me that they have been around for more than a season and they aren't going to fold tomorrow. <small>[ 05-03-2002, 05:22 PM: Message edited by: CUBL Commish ]</small> __________________ CUBL Commissioner

05-02-2002, 07:54 PM	#1
Kurtis R. All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,105	1st OFBA Awards The first OFBA awards are now final!! <a href="http://www.simleagues.com/ofba/" target="_blank">Check it out</a> Kurtis OFBA __________________ CUBL Commissioner

05-03-2002, 11:05 AM	#5
JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,021 Blog Entries: 3	Lets give him a break. Its only the first time. Its out there now we can get more leagues entered. And Leagues with history will have a little advantage until they win. But if you have the web site, owners and everything else. I thought it was a good first time

05-03-2002, 11:24 AM	#8
Crackerjack Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 362	First off thanks for the mention (Mark), Second I did enter our league (CBL).Not sure why you did not get it as my e-mail has it as sent (sent in on a whim, not usually intrested in that stuff)? I did get an email from the OFBA that the voting was complete and to take a look at the final tallies.Third its not a big deal, these league are for fun. The key to a great league is not its site,commish or all the extras..its the owners. The best ones are where the original owners stay with the league, send in lineups, make trades and contribute. Our league has all that. Lastly I think the gentleman that did the OFBA site and voting did a good job. It does take a lot to wreak the jabbing by everyone for not picking their league for any amount of reasons. Kudos!! Bird <small>[ 05-03-2002, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: Crackerjack ]</small> __________________ Cheers Bird WWW.CRACKERJACKBASEBALL.COM

05-03-2002, 12:36 PM	#9
Kurtis R. All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,105	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Crackerjack: <strong>First off thanks for the mention (Mark), Second I did enter our league (CBL).Not sure why you did not get it as my e-mail has it as sent (sent in on a whim, not usually intrested in that stuff)? Bird</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I did recieve an email for you to enter OFBA, but I do not see CBL on the message board to be judged. Some leagues did not want to be judged... some league just wanted the exposure... or whatever.. that is why I had the leagues that WANTED to be judged, sign up on the message board. One more thing... every year the judging panel will grow... so every year the scores should get more and more accurate and not based on one persons opinion... they will be averaged out.. thanks Kurtis OFBA <small>[ 05-03-2002, 11:38 PM: Message edited by: CUBL Commish ]</small> __________________ CUBL Commissioner

05-03-2002, 04:42 PM	#10
Aussie Mark Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Downunder Posts: 489	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by CUBL Commish: <strong>[QUOTE]Well.. if Crackerjack Baseball would have entered their league, maybe they would have ranked up there!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Crackerjack is listed at the site __________________ Cheers Mark

05-03-2002, 04:49 PM	#11
Aussie Mark Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Downunder Posts: 489	Sorry for mouthing off. You guys are right, it's not such a big deal, and it's only one person's opinion. I shouldn't post with lots of caffeine in my system :-) __________________ Cheers Mark

05-03-2002, 05:27 PM	#12
Kurtis R. All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,105	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Aussie Mark: <strong>Crackerjack is listed at the site</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes Crackerjack is listed at the site, but is it signed up in the message board? __________________ CUBL Commissioner

05-05-2002, 10:52 AM	#13
Ragin Cajun All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Atascosita, TX Posts: 1,173	First off: Thanks to Kurtis for having the brass to even attempt this venture. Secondly: I've seen Mark (and actually been in a league with him) and know that he does not normally "shoot from the hip". I guess the caffeine levels were really peaking that day. Anyway, thanks Kurtis for the hard work. The NBSL would like to thank you for finding us worth of the second place award and we will display the 2nd place ribbon proudly on our website. We will also continue to strive for excellence and attain the #1 ranking. Any feedback Kurtis on how often you will be judging? __________________ Former NBSL Commissioner: 16 years Former Online League Owner; six time champion

05-05-2002, 07:30 PM	#14
Kurtis R. All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,105	Twice a year.. every six months is the planned schedule right now. Next event will be at or near October. I would do this more often, but it is a lot of work to do this... and I also have my own league that I run.. and it comes first. thanks Kurtis __________________ CUBL Commissioner