Home | Webstore
Latest News: OOTP Hotfix 21.1.33 - OOTP 21 Available - FHM 6 Available

OOTP Baseball 21 Available Now!

  

Go Back   OOTP Developments Forums > Out of the Park Baseball 21 > Perfect Team 21

Perfect Team 21 Perfect Team 21 - The online revolution! Battle tens of thousands of PT managers from all over the world and become a legend.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-21-2020, 12:09 PM   #1
FancySkunk
Major Leagues
 
FancySkunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 331
Thanks: 22
Thanked 211x in 131 posts
New PT Universe Structure shown on Steam store page



Rookie and Stone level added at the bottom. Only one team from each Diamond league promoted, 24 teams relegated from what appears to be only one Perfect league.
__________________



(Last Updated: 3/14/2020)

Last edited by FancySkunk; 02-21-2020 at 12:14 PM.
FancySkunk is offline   Reply With Quote
12 thanks for this post:
cavacom (02-21-2020), Cobbiusto (02-21-2020), daves (02-22-2020), Dogberry99 (02-21-2020), justpatrick (02-22-2020), Markus Heinsohn (02-21-2020), Rayzor (02-21-2020), SF_49er (02-21-2020), Sipimi (02-21-2020), stl jason (02-21-2020), waittilnextyear (02-22-2020), webdox (02-21-2020)
Old 02-21-2020, 12:22 PM   #2
Markus Heinsohn
Developer OOTP
 
Markus Heinsohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 23,723
Thanks: 5,900
Thanked 41,735x in 6,498 posts
Yup, that's brand new. We cap the number of Diamond Leagues at around 48, and the number of teams in the Perfect League will be between 30 and 60, depending on where we are in the life cycle. Everybody who does not make the playoffs in Perfect League gets demoted back to Diamond. So, it will be a constant battle for the top. Also, because of this we will have a TRUE Perfect Team champion each season... I can't wait!
Markus Heinsohn is offline   Reply With Quote
24 thanks for this post:
allenciox (03-09-2020), Angamanon (02-26-2020), Cobbiusto (02-21-2020), daves (02-22-2020), Dogberry99 (02-21-2020), HelpDodgers (02-21-2020), Janks (02-21-2020), JasonC23 (02-21-2020), justpatrick (02-22-2020), Khlod (02-26-2020), Kushiel (02-21-2020), Lukas Berger (02-21-2020), macacks (03-01-2020), mcdog512 (02-21-2020), natedawgdude3 (03-06-2020), neugey (02-24-2020), Rayzor (02-21-2020), RunninYakAngler (02-21-2020), SF Giants (02-22-2020), SF_49er (02-21-2020), silvam14 (02-21-2020), stl jason (02-21-2020), waittilnextyear (02-22-2020), webdox (02-21-2020)
Old 02-21-2020, 12:39 PM   #3
Chico Guilbault
All Star Reserve
 
Chico Guilbault's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Bound Brook, NJ
Posts: 919
Thanks: 836
Thanked 863x in 369 posts
That single PL at the top makes me want to swoon!
__________________
BeechumCounty.com

Chico Guilbault is offline   Reply With Quote
3 thanks for this post:
Lukas Berger (02-21-2020), Markus Heinsohn (02-21-2020), webdox (02-21-2020)
Old 02-21-2020, 12:41 PM   #4
Dogberry99
All Star Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
Posts: 1,295
Thanks: 961
Thanked 592x in 404 posts
I truly love to see how the studio is taking the lessons learned from 19 and 20 and using them to improve everything.
__________________
"And, Masters, do not forget to specify, when time and place shall serve, that I am an [censored]." (Much Ado About Nothing 5.1.255-256)

Open Offense - Rangers/Astros Pitching Theme Team

Collection Rewards (Cards and Packs) F2P Theme Team

Movers F2P Theme Team
Dogberry99 is offline   Reply With Quote
5 thanks for this post:
Lukas Berger (02-21-2020), Markus Heinsohn (02-21-2020), natedawgdude3 (03-06-2020), One Great Matrix (02-28-2020), PocketsAintFull (02-21-2020)
Old 02-21-2020, 12:44 PM   #5
Markus Heinsohn
Developer OOTP
 
Markus Heinsohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 23,723
Thanks: 5,900
Thanked 41,735x in 6,498 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogberry99 View Post
I truly love to see how the studio is taking the lessons learned from 19 and 20 and using them to improve everything.
Thanks for the kind words We try to listen to our customers and implement as many suggested changes as possible, without hurting the business model at the same time obviously. I think PT21 will be a blast!
Markus Heinsohn is offline   Reply With Quote
5 thanks for this post:
Angamanon (02-26-2020), bailey (02-21-2020), Kushiel (02-21-2020), natedawgdude3 (03-06-2020), Sipimi (02-21-2020)
Old 02-21-2020, 12:54 PM   #6
Thornbreaker
Minors (Double A)
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 136
Thanks: 19
Thanked 49x in 32 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn View Post
Thanks for the kind words We try to listen to our customers and implement as many suggested changes as possible, without hurting the business model at the same time obviously. I think PT21 will be a blast!


In listening... Will there be an additional criteria to reach Diamond, such as multiple gold championships?

I think until you have an additional criteria that merits upper tier, Diamond just becomes the new perfect league with the same issues it currently has as far as competition and tanking.
__________________




Thornbreaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 12:58 PM   #7
Markus Heinsohn
Developer OOTP
 
Markus Heinsohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 23,723
Thanks: 5,900
Thanked 41,735x in 6,498 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thornbreaker View Post
In listening... Will there be an additional criteria to reach Diamond, such as multiple gold championships?

I think until you have an additional criteria that merits upper tier, Diamond just becomes the new perfect league with the same issues it currently has as far as competition and tanking.
No criteria for promotions. But less teams from Gold are promoted and the shape of the system will be more like a Pyramid this time, so the issues you state will be minimized.
Markus Heinsohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Thank you for this post:
Thornbreaker (02-21-2020)
Old 02-21-2020, 01:10 PM   #8
Pine Tar
Minors (Single A)
 
Pine Tar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 99
Thanks: 53
Thanked 30x in 23 posts
Having 8 teams promoted will stop players from making the playoff points and then tanking the playoffs so they don't get promoted. It seems like a good solution to this style of tanking.

Excited to see how this level format functions. Everything will new and shiny.

Pine Tar
__________________
Pine Tar

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Sometimes I wonder, whatever happened to all the people I gave directions to ..
Never take a sleeping pill and laxative at the same time.
Pine Tar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 01:11 PM   #9
Thornbreaker
Minors (Double A)
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 136
Thanks: 19
Thanked 49x in 32 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn View Post
No criteria for promotions. But less teams from Gold are promoted and the shape of the system will be more like a Pyramid this time, so the issues you state will be minimized.
Thanks Markus, if they aren't minimized, just keep that idea in mind. To me, showing multiple championships indicates you're ready and will be competitive for an upper tier filled with whales and F2P managers that have the time. Rather than having a fluke season or two and then getting trounced in the upper tier/s.
__________________




Thornbreaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 02:05 PM   #10
Westheim
Hall Of Famer
 
Westheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Germany
Posts: 7,304
Thanks: 2,600
Thanked 5,393x in 3,038 posts
Okay, I'll be the one. I don't like the prospect of half the teams in a league getting booted up or down on Monday. Leaves little to no room for experimentation / position training without careening towards the red zone. And I'm also very disappointed that even the fluke chance at a PL championship will be taken away from 99% of teams, which perversely enough was also what many of those 99% of players seemed to wish for...
__________________
Portland Raccoons, 58 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here!
1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028
1 OSANAI
: 2 POWELL : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 28 CASAS : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO

Resident Mets Cynic


Westheim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 02:08 PM   #11
HRBaker
All Star Starter
 
HRBaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,045
Thanks: 106
Thanked 734x in 394 posts
I never fail to be amazed at the attention OOTP gives to the user community. Taking the time to go through thousands of ideas and work in something that accomplishes those ideas in a way that doesn't ruin the game.... admirable. I guess that's where the term "work-in-progress" comes from


Looking forward to v21.
__________________
F2P - All LIVE Players

F2P - MON, TOR, CLE, DET, CHC, CHW, MIL only

F2P - Non-LIVE Players


HR Baker

2020 MLB Season Simulated with OOTP
HRBaker is offline   Reply With Quote
2 thanks for this post:
One Great Matrix (02-28-2020), Sipimi (02-21-2020)
Old 02-21-2020, 03:08 PM   #12
bailey
All Star Starter
 
bailey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,562
Thanks: 168
Thanked 769x in 434 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Westheim View Post
Okay, I'll be the one. I don't like the prospect of half the teams in a league getting booted up or down on Monday. Leaves little to no room for experimentation / position training without careening towards the red zone. And I'm also very disappointed that even the fluke chance at a PL championship will be taken away from 99% of teams, which perversely enough was also what many of those 99% of players seemed to wish for...
I think most people want competitive leagues and not be 20 behind in 2nd place by July. It only makes sense to crown a single perfect champion each week. It will be interesting to see up to 60 teams in a single league. Have they thought of the possible configurations and created a custom-made schedule for each one? Please, don't ruin the experience by having the computer auto-generate a schedule for a 46-team league!

Last edited by bailey; 02-21-2020 at 03:33 PM.
bailey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 04:45 PM   #13
HRBaker
All Star Starter
 
HRBaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,045
Thanks: 106
Thanked 734x in 394 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Westheim View Post
Okay, I'll be the one. I don't like the prospect of half the teams in a league getting booted up or down on Monday. Leaves little to no room for experimentation / position training without careening towards the red zone. And I'm also very disappointed that even the fluke chance at a PL championship will be taken away from 99% of teams, which perversely enough was also what many of those 99% of players seemed to wish for...

I have to agree with bailey. I would much rather play in a competitive league equal to my team's strength than ever getting to Perfect Level. I'm willing to submit the upper Tier to those willing to build "Perfect Teams" while I win as many championships in the lower leagues as I can manage. Not everyone has to be "king of the mountain".
__________________
F2P - All LIVE Players

F2P - MON, TOR, CLE, DET, CHC, CHW, MIL only

F2P - Non-LIVE Players


HR Baker

2020 MLB Season Simulated with OOTP
HRBaker is offline   Reply With Quote
3 thanks for this post:
cavacom (02-21-2020), Lemandria (02-22-2020), webdox (02-21-2020)
Old 02-21-2020, 07:25 PM   #14
ButtersFTW
Minors (Single A)
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 69
Thanks: 14
Thanked 17x in 5 posts
Anything that makes it so Im not forced to compete with "whales" sounds good to me. All I ask is that I have a fair shot to win.
ButtersFTW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 08:55 PM   #15
webdox
Minors (Triple A)
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 274
Thanks: 201
Thanked 133x in 77 posts
I don't think I can keep Mr. Fastspring and his PayPal transactions a secret one more season.......

Or can I?
__________________



Last edited by webdox; 02-21-2020 at 09:07 PM.
webdox is offline   Reply With Quote
Thank you for this post:
Markus Heinsohn (02-22-2020)
Old 02-21-2020, 09:37 PM   #16
mcdog512
Hall Of Famer
 
mcdog512's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Donald James Larsen (August 7, 1929 – January 1, 2020)
Posts: 2,063
Thanks: 277
Thanked 1,207x in 785 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn View Post
Yup, that's brand new. We cap the number of Diamond Leagues at around 48, and the number of teams in the Perfect League will be between 30 and 60, depending on where we are in the life cycle. Everybody who does not make the playoffs in Perfect League gets demoted back to Diamond. So, it will be a constant battle for the top. Also, because of this we will have a TRUE Perfect Team champion each season... I can't wait!

Love it Markus. Very very cool.
__________________






mcdog512 is online now   Reply With Quote
Thank you for this post:
Markus Heinsohn (02-22-2020)
Old 02-21-2020, 10:09 PM   #17
HRBaker
All Star Starter
 
HRBaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,045
Thanks: 106
Thanked 734x in 394 posts
(this is how I spend my extra time)

Playing with some of the hints Marcus mentioned about the new PT Pyramid (30-60 Perfect teams, and 48max Diamond leagues) I came up with a "rough" guess of the level numbers.

Disclaimer; I could be terribly wrong LOL

Marcus comments sets about 1500 teams in his current Beta test run into his top 2 levels. If we look at his team totals (24,198 teams) that puts about 22,500 teams in the lower 6 levels (Gold to Rookie). If he configures the structure closer to a pyramid this time, I get the following breakdown...

Perfect - 60 teams
Diamond ~ 1400 teams
Gold ~ 2400 teams
Silver ~ 3000 teams
Bronze ~ 3600 teams
Iron ~ 4200 teams
Stone ~ 4800 teams
Rookie ~ 5400 teams

That totals about 24,000 teams, as showing in his beta screen shots.

If we extrapolate those ratios back to PT20 (660 leagues, and 19712 teams) we get the following breakdown... (Note: these are "gross" numbers - meaning not divisible by 30 team leagues)

Perfect - 49 teams, 2 leagues
Diamond ~ 1174 teams, 39 leagues
Gold ~ 1957 teams, 65 leagues
Silver ~ 2446 teams, 82 leagues
Bronze ~ 2935 teams, 98 leagues
Iron ~ 3424 teams, 114 leagues
Stone ~ 3913 teams, 130 leagues
Rookie ~ 4402 teams, 147 leagues

So, why did I do this exercise? ...to try and figure out what level my teams would likely be in under the new structure. Best I can tell, there are currently 2,670 teams in Perfect. Since I'm usually just under .500 with my Perfect teams, I'm probably hovering around the 1500th best team.

If my estimations above hold true, my current Perfect Team(s) would likely be in the upper Gold Level area in PT21 and much more competitive.

And THAT, my friends, makes me a lot happier than where I am now
__________________
F2P - All LIVE Players

F2P - MON, TOR, CLE, DET, CHC, CHW, MIL only

F2P - Non-LIVE Players


HR Baker

2020 MLB Season Simulated with OOTP
HRBaker is offline   Reply With Quote
2 thanks for this post:
Lemandria (02-22-2020), PocketsAintFull (02-22-2020)
Old 02-22-2020, 12:45 AM   #18
xekyn92
Bat Boy
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 12
Thanks: 5
Thanked 9x in 5 posts
It’s super nitpicky but I really dislike the name of ‘Stone’ tier, it feels thematically out of place. Personally would have much preferred ‘Rookie < Iron < Bronze < Silver < Gold < Platinum < Diamond < Perfect’ since Platinum is a common tier that appears in lots of other games with a competitive ranking system. Not the end of the world, just strikes me as bizarre.
xekyn92 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2020, 03:01 AM   #19
Markus Heinsohn
Developer OOTP
 
Markus Heinsohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 23,723
Thanks: 5,900
Thanked 41,735x in 6,498 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by bailey View Post
Have they thought of the possible configurations and created a custom-made schedule for each one? Please, don't ruin the experience by having the computer auto-generate a schedule for a 46-team league!
No worries
Markus Heinsohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2020, 03:02 AM   #20
Markus Heinsohn
Developer OOTP
 
Markus Heinsohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 23,723
Thanks: 5,900
Thanked 41,735x in 6,498 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by xekyn92 View Post
It’s super nitpicky but I really dislike the name of ‘Stone’ tier, it feels thematically out of place. Personally would have much preferred ‘Rookie < Iron < Bronze < Silver < Gold < Platinum < Diamond < Perfect’ since Platinum is a common tier that appears in lots of other games with a competitive ranking system. Not the end of the world, just strikes me as bizarre.
We don't have Platinum cards, and we want a consistent scale. So not bizarre at all
Markus Heinsohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Thank you for this post:
One Great Matrix (02-28-2020)
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:03 PM.

 

Major League and Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of Major League Baseball. Visit MLB.com and MiLB.com.

Officially Licensed Product – MLB Players, Inc.

Out of the Park Baseball is a registered trademark of Out of the Park Developments GmbH & Co. KG

Google Play is a trademark of Google Inc.

Apple, iPhone, iPod touch and iPad are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.

COPYRIGHT © 2020 OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENTS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2020 Out of the Park Developments