Ouch! what a dropoff

bogieman · 06-16-2019, 01:18 PM

This is insane.

rudel.dietrich · 06-16-2019, 01:53 PM

https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...ollade01.shtml

Seems deserved. A 1.6 WHIP and 14 HR given up in 49 IP.

Threnodas · 06-16-2019, 04:30 PM

Giants fan here. Holland has been awful and pitched himself out of the rotation, into the bullpen. As I recall, that affects his ratings in two ways:

1. Obviously, his awful real life stats get averaged in with his projections, so his skill ratings drop, and so does his overall rating.

2. He did move from the rotation to the bullpen, so his overall rating is now his value as a reliever (i.e., RP playing time, relative to other RP), which is probably much lower than his value as a starter (SP playing time relative to other SP).

RunninYakAngler · 06-16-2019, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bogieman

This is insane.

Yeah, and I got three of him today! It was a nice change from my usual Jared Walsh.

waittilnextyear · 06-17-2019, 01:27 AM

Derek Holland has sucked for like 5 years now. If anything, him being +23 at some point was the error.

nutt · 06-17-2019, 09:38 AM

If you think his drop off has been bad, you should see Familia's.

Magus978 · 06-17-2019, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nutt

If you think his drop off has been bad, you should see Familia's.

As harsh as Familia's is, as a Mets fan who watches most of the games I say it's not enough. He's performed like a mid-Iron card. Completely and utterly worthless, and if he wasn't on a fat contract, any sane GM would DFA him *snaps fingers* just like that.

Bunktown Ballers · 06-17-2019, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bogieman

This is insane.

I personnaly love the ratings drops and rises...kinda reflects IRL play

Ty Cobb · 06-17-2019, 10:17 AM

He "snapped"

nutt · 06-17-2019, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Magus978

As harsh as Familia's is, as a Mets fan who watches most of the games I say it's not enough. He's performed like a mid-Iron card. Completely and utterly worthless, and if he wasn't on a fat contract, any sane GM would DFA him *snaps fingers* just like that.

I've had a solid bullpen since Week 4. I feel like this Week is going to test me if I don't pull any Golds or Diamonds in packs. I've had Familia drop (he's not even on my roster for this week--for now), Edwin Diaz (danger of falling to silver), Diekman back to Silver, Lorenzen back to Bronze. Hey, the good news is Seth Lugo went up to Silver (well, from a 70 to 71 this week) but Maeda fell to a 72. Maeda has been a solid rotation piece for me since I pulled him, winning 14+ games every full week.

bailey · 06-17-2019, 04:34 PM

Maybe there will be a collection someday of cards that have dropped the most in OVR.

06-16-2019, 01:18 PM	#1
bogieman Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 145	Ouch! what a dropoff This is insane. Attached Images

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Threnodas Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 256	Giants fan here. Holland has been awful and pitched himself out of the rotation, into the bullpen. As I recall, that affects his ratings in two ways: 1. Obviously, his awful real life stats get averaged in with his projections, so his skill ratings drop, and so does his overall rating. 2. He did move from the rotation to the bullpen, so his overall rating is now his value as a reliever (i.e., RP playing time, relative to other RP), which is probably much lower than his value as a starter (SP playing time relative to other SP). __________________

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waittilnextyear All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 1,272	Derek Holland has sucked for like 5 years now. If anything, him being +23 at some point was the error. __________________

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Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 3,950 Blog Entries: 66	Familia? He "snapped" Attached Images __________________ “What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss?” “Everyone is an atheist until Templars begin marching in the rain.” Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.—Thomas Sowell "Alinsky works for me now."

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...ollade01.shtml Seems deserved. A 1.6 WHIP and 14 HR given up in 49 IP.

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bailey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,128	Maybe there will be a collection someday of cards that have dropped the most in OVR. __________________