Historical Comparison with OOTP

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I have decided do a comparison of OOTP to Real Life. I have placed it in the Historical simulation section as it is not really a dynasty story as such but just a comparison.

I will run a historic league from 1901 up to 20?? (not sure yet how far I will go). It will have all of the historic functions turned on. This means real transactions, real line ups, real retirement dates. In fact the whole works. I will have the full recalc on, set at 3 years so that the same real players should be the top players as those in real life.

I will sim out each season and then compare how the season went in real life to that of OOTP.

This will allow me to contrast how different players performed opposed to their real life stats. Also I will compare the final tables, awards and play off results to those of the year in focus.

I will also take note of players that have a big career and contrast them to their real stats when they retire so we can check out their career differences.

The only slight differences will be the Half of Fame voting starting in 1901 and all pre 1901 players will be eligible for the first 10 seasons.

After each season has been played out I will be happy to take any requests for player comparisons if anyone wants to see how their favourite did that season. I am also happy to include other stats for the year if anyone wants a comparison of something.

So lets head into 1901 and see the first year's comparison.

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OOTP Standings





Real Life Standings





The Boston Americans take the AL Pennant instead of the Chicago White Sox/Stockings

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OOTP



The Boston Americans win their first MLB Championship in the OOTP World

Real World

There was no world series due to a dispute between the AL and NL.

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OOTP
AL Batting Average Leaders


AL Home Run Leaders


AL RBI Leaders


Real Life

AL Batting Leader

Nap Lajoie .426
Mike Donlin .340
Buck Freeman .339
Socks Seybold .334
Jimmy Collins .332
John Anderson .330
Lave Cross .328
Bill Keister .328


AL Home Runs Leaders

Nap Lajoie 14
Buck Freeman 12
Mike Grady 9
Socks Seybold 8
John Anderson 8
Harry Davis 8
Jimmy Williams 7
Pop Foster 7

AL RBI Leaders

Nap Lajoie 125
Buck Freeman 114
John Anderson 99
Sam Mertes 98
Jimmy Williams 96
Jimmy Collins 94
Bill Keister 93
Socks Seybold 90

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OOTP

NL Batting Average Leaders


NL Home Run Leaders


NL RBI Leaders


Real Life

NL Batting Leaders

Jesse Burkett .376
Ed Delahanty .354
Jimmy Sheckard .354
Honus Wagner .353
Emmet Heidrick .339
Willie Keeler .339
Topsy Hartsel .335
George Van Haltren .335

NL Home Run Leaders

Sam Crawford 16
Jimmy Sheckard 11
Jesse Burkett 10
Ed Delahanty 8
Elmer Flick 8
Ginger Beaumont 8
Topsy Hartsel 7
George Davis 7

NL RBI Leaders

Honus Wagner 126
Ed Delahanty 108
Sam Crawford 104
Jimmy Sheckard 104
Bobby Wallace 91
Kitty Bransfield 91
Tom Daly 90
Elmer Flick 88

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OOTP

AL Win Leaders


AL ERA Leaders


AL Strike Out Leaders


Real Life

AL Win Leaders

Cy Young 33
Joe McGinnity 26
Clark Griffith 24
Roscoe Miller 23
Chick Fraser 22
Roy Patterson 20
Casey Patten 18
Ed Siever 18

AL ERA Leaders

Cy Young 1.62
Jimmy Callahan 2.42
Joe Yeager 2.61
Clark Griffith 2.67
George Winter 2.80
Jack Katoll 2.81
Earl Moore 2.90
Roscoe Miller 2.95

AL Strike Out Leaders

Cy Young 158
Roy Patterson 127
Pete Dowling 124
Ned Garvin 122
Chick Fraser 110
Casey Patten 109
Ted Lewis 103
Earl Moore 99

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OOTP

NL Win Leaders


NL ERA Leaders


NL Strike Out Leaders


Real Life

NL Win Leaders

Bill Donovan 25
Jack Harper 23
Noodles Hahn 22
Deacon Phillippe 22
Jack Chesbro 21
Red Donahue 20
Bill Duggleby 20
Christy Mathewson 20
Al Orth 20
Vic Willis 20

NL ERA Leaders

Jesse Tannehill 2.18
Deacon Phillippe 2.22
Al Orth 2.27
Vic Willis 2.36
Jack Chesbro 2.38
Christy Mathewson 2.41
Red Donahue 2.59
Noodles Hahn 2.71

NL Strike Out Leaders

Noodles Hahn 239
Bill Donovan 226
Tom Hughes 225
Christy Mathewson 221
Rube Waddell 172
Kid Nichols 143
Bill Dinneen 141
Dummy Taylor 136

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OOTP

Results

Players voted in
Monte Ward 97.4%
Jim O'Rourke 97.4%
Bobby Mathews 92.8%
Old Hoss Radbourn 92.1%
Tim Keefe 90.9%
John Clarkson 90.6%
Pud Galvin 81.9%
Tony Mullane 80.8%
Mickey Welch 77.7%

Players not voted in but still eligible
Charlie Buffinton 48.7%
King Kelly 23.4%
Deacon White 21.9%
Paul Hines 19.6%
Harry Stovey 18.1%
Dave Foutz 11.3%
George Gore 8.3%

Players removed from future ballots

Charlie Bennett 0%
Pete Browning 2.6%
Oyster Burns 1.1%
Abner Dalrymple 0.4%
Fred Dunlap 0%
Davy Force 0%
Jack Glasscock 1.1%
Ned Hanlon 0%
Charley Jones 1.5%
Jack Manning 0.4%
Tommy McCarthy 0.4%
Hardy Richardson 2.3%
Joe Start 0.8%
Ezra Sutton 2.3%
Ned Williamson 0.8%
Sam Wise 0%
George Wood 0%

Real Hall of Fame

Not yet started

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OOTP
Billy Hamilton 1617 games, 1586 starts, 2196 hits, 38 home runs, 737 RBI's, 1677 Runs
Tommy Dowd 1318 games, 1317 starts, 1517 hits, 25 home runs, 513 RBI's, 903 runs
Pete Dowling 110 games, 102 starts, 38 wins, 62 losses, 3.72 ERA, 316 K's
Ted Lewis 179 games, 151 starts, 99 wins, 59 losses, 3.40 ERA, 353 K's
Jerry Nops 147 games, 122 starts, 73 wins, 44 losses, 3.67 ERA, 317 K's
Pop Schriver 796 games, 725 starts, 710 hits, 15 home runs, 360 RBI's, 360 runs
Frank Shugart 760 games, 744 starts, 795 hits, 22 home runs, 384 RBI's, 457 runs
Gus Weyhing 543 games, 503 starts, 264 wins, 233 losses, 3.89 ERA, 678 K's
Mike E Smith1233 Games, 1215 starts, 1457 hits, 38 home runs, 664 RBI's, 913 runs
Cupid Childs 1457 games, 1454 starts, 1722 hits, 20 home runs, 745 RBI's, 1213 runs

Real life
Billy Hamilton 1591 games, 1589 starts, 2158 hits, 40 home runs, 736 RBI's, 1690 Runs
Tommy Dowd 1320 games, 1319 starts, 1492 hits, 24 home runs, 501 RBI's, 903 runs
Pete Dowling 117 games, 102 starts, 39 wins, 65 losses, 3.87 ERA, 299 K's
Ted Lewis 183 games, 153 starts, 94 wins, 64 losses, 3.53 ERA, 378 K's
Jerry Nops 136 games, 122 starts, 72 wins, 41 losses, 3.70 ERA, 294 K's
Pop Schriver 800 games, 729 starts, 720 hits, 16 home runs, 375 RBI's, 367 runs
Frank Shugart 745 games, 744 starts, 804 hits, 22 home runs, 384 RBI's, 483 runs
Gus Weyhing 538 games, 503 starts, 264 wins, 232 losses, 3.89 ERA, 665 K's
Mike E Smith 1234 games, 1218 starts, 1454 hits, 37 home runs, 663 RBI's, 912 runs
Cupid Childs 1456 games, 1455 starts, 1720 hits, 20 home runs, 743 RBI's, 1214 runs

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Real Life did not have any awards as yet

OOTP

AL MVP


AL Pitcher of the Year


AL Rookie of the Year

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Real Life did not have any awards as yet

OOTP

NL MVP


NL Pitcher of the Year


NL Rookie of the Year

[JaBurns]

This is a great idea, is the development engine on in your recreation?
Retiring players have remarkably close to real life stats at first glance.

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Originally Posted by JaBurns

This is a great idea, is the development engine on in your recreation?
Retiring players have remarkably close to real life stats at first glance.

No the development engine is turned off as i wanted it to be done on the recalc only.

The first few years the retiring players will have very similar stats as most of the games will have been played prior to the start year of 1901 but hopefully that will change as the years progress.

With the historic line ups turned on i don't expect to many differences to the games played though.

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OOTP Final Standings

Boston Americans and Pittsburgh Pirates both take their second pennant





Real Final Standings

Philadelphia Athletics make it pennant number 1 while the Pittsburgh Pirates are on pennant number 2

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1902 Play offs OOTP



Boston Americans take their second championship.

There were no play offs in the real world due to a dispute between the AL and NL

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OOTP Batting Average


OOTP Home Run Leaders


OOTP RBI Leaders


Real Life Batting Average

Ed Delahanty .376
Charlie Hickman .361
Lave Cross .342
Patsy Dougherty .342
Bill Bradley .340
Chick Stahl .323
Jimmy Collins .322
Fielder Jones .321

Real Life Home Run Leaders

Socks Seybold 16
Charlie Hickman 11
Bill Bradley 11
Buck Freeman 11
Ed Delahanty 10
Bill Keister 9
Jimmy Williams 8
Hobe Ferris 8

Real Life RBI Leaders

Buck Freeman 121
Charlie Hickman 110
Lave Cross 108
Socks Seybold 97
Ed Delahanty 93
George Davis 93
Harry Davis 92
Bill Keister 90

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OOTP Batting Average


OOTP Home Run Leaders


OOTP RBI Leaders


Real Life Batting Average

Buck Freeman 121
Charlie Hickman 110
Lave Cross 108
Socks Seybold 97
Ed Delahanty 93
George Davis 93
Harry Davis 92
Bill Keister 90

Real Life Home Run Leaders

Tommy Leach 6
Jake Beckley 5
Jimmy Shckard 4
Tom McCreery 4
Sam Crawford 3
Honus Wagner 3
Homer Smoot 3
George Barclay 3
Shad Berry 3
Steve Brodie 3
Charlie Dexter 3
Tim Flood 3

Real Life RBI Leaders

Honus Wagner 91
Tommy Leach 85
Sam Crawford 78
Bill Dahlen 74
Jake Beckley 69
Kitty Bransfield 69
Ginger Beaumont 67
Pat Carney 65
Ed Gremminger 65

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OOTP Win Leaders


OOTP ERA Leaders


OOTP Strike Out Leaders


Real Life Win Leaders

Cy Young 32
Rube Waddell 24
Red Donahue 22
Jack Powell 22
Bill Dinneen 21
Eddie Plank 20
Al Orth 19
Roy Patterson 19

Real Life ERA Leaders

Ed Seiver 1.91
Rube Waddell 2.05
Bill Bernhard 2.15
Cy Young 2.15
Ned Garvin 2.21
Red Donahue 2.76
Addie Joss 2.77
Willie Sudhoff 2.86

Real Life Strike Out Leaders

Rube Wadell 210
Cy Young 160
Jack Powell 137
Bill Dinneen 136
Eddie Plank 107
Addie Joss 106
Wiley Piatt 96
Casey Patten 92

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OOTP Win Leaders


OOTP ERA Leaders


OOTP Strike Out Leaders


Real Life Win Leaders

Jack Chesbro 28
Togie Pittinger 27
Vic Willis 27
Noodles Hahn 23
Jack Taylor 23
Deacon Phillippe 20
Jesse Tannehill 20
Frank Kitson 19

Real Life ERA Leaders

Jack Taylor 1.29
Noodles Hahn 1.77
Jesse Tannehill 1.95
Carl Lundgren 1.97
Deacon Phillippe 2.05
Joe McGinnity 2.06
Ed Poole 2.10
Christy Mathewson 2.12

Real Life Strike Out Leaders

Vic Willis 225
Doc White 185
Togie Pittinger 174
Bill Donovan 170
Christy Mathewson 164
Noodles Hahn 142
Jack Chesbro 136
Deacon Phillippe 122

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There is still no hall of fame voting in real life


OOTP Hall of fame voting results

Voted into the hall of fame

Cap Anson 98.3%
Roger Connor 84.8%

Remaining on the ballot

Charlie Buffinton 69.4% (2nd year)
Buck Ewing 29.6% (1st year)
Adonis Terry 28.6% (1st year)
King Kelly 24.2% (2nd year)
Paul Hines 23.6% (2nd year)
Harry Stovey 23.2% (2nd year)
Deacon White 21.5% (2nd year)
Dave Foutz 13.8% (2nd year)
Denny Lyons 12.1% (1st year)
Fred Pfeffer 7.1% (1st year)
George Gore 7.1% (2nd year)

Nobody was dropped from the ballot this year