7th+, 8th+, 9th+: What does the "+" mean?

jpeters1734 · 11-24-2023, 12:41 PM

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beepollen · 11-24-2023, 12:47 PM

It means you're bringing in the reliever after that inning has started.

jpeters1734 · 11-24-2023, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by beepollen

It means you're bringing in the reliever after that inning has started.

I could see that for relievers but what about defensive subs? why would it be 7+ an not just 7, for instance?

MathBandit · 11-24-2023, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

I could see that for relievers but what about defensive subs? why would it be 7+ an not just 7, for instance?

I assume just to clarify that it's "Any time in or after the 7th that we have a lead" and not just "If we have a lead specifically at the beginning of the 7th". So that if you get a go-ahead run in the top of the 8th, the AI still brings the sub in for the bottom of the 8th and doesn't think "Oh, I was only told to bring in subs if we have a lead in the 7th"

hfield007 · 11-25-2023, 02:35 PM

i always took it as "at least the 7th inning" for 7+

Pelican · 11-26-2023, 10:18 AM

Yeah, I set my setup guys for 8+, meaning (or so I thought) they can be used to start the 8th inning or later. My “stopper” is usually set for 7+. And that seems to be how the game engine uses them.

Bluenoser · 11-26-2023, 11:16 AM

Basically, the + means "on"

Can come into the game from the the 7th on, from the 8th on, etc etc.

GTAltman · 11-29-2023, 12:43 AM

Maybe an easier way to look at it would be if you wanted the RP to come into a clean inning or not.

If you use the +, then you probably want to look at the RP's inherited run scoring percentage, and or the pLI stat / Shut Down / Melt Down.

If your BP is suspect, then disregard the +, and get them in the game to start the inning rather than putting out a fire.

fredbeene · 11-29-2023, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MathBandit

I assume just to clarify that it's "Any time in or after the 7th that we have a lead" and not just "If we have a lead specifically at the beginning of the 7th". So that if you get a go-ahead run in the top of the 8th, the AI still brings the sub in for the bottom of the 8th and doesn't think "Oh, I was only told to bring in subs if we have a lead in the 7th"

I am sure the answer is in the manual, in game help or tooltips!!!
or maybe they just don't say because they need to generate posts in online forums for engagment??

jpeters1734 · 11-30-2023, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Basically, the + means "on"

Can come into the game from the the 7th on, from the 8th on, etc etc.

idk, usage options for closers are "8th or later" and "8th+ or later". By you answer, those would mean the same thing

jpeters1734 · 11-30-2023, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pelican

Yeah, I set my setup guys for 8+, meaning (or so I thought) they can be used to start the 8th inning or later. My “stopper” is usually set for 7+. And that seems to be how the game engine uses them.

Set-ups and Stoppers do not have the "+" in their usage roles

jpeters1734 · 11-30-2023, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by beepollen

It means you're bringing in the reliever after that inning has started.

"8th or later" and "8th+ or later" are both options for closers. Both of these options imply that they could be used after the 8th has started because of the "or later".

Bluenoser · 11-30-2023, 05:21 AM

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Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 13,687	Basically, the + means "on" Can come into the game from the the 7th on, from the 8th on, etc etc.