AI Trade Logic Problem

JeremyTyler28 · 02-20-2017, 03:01 PM

I'm currently the GM/Head Coach of the Owen Sound Attack of the OHL. I noticed there's a few players I still own the rights to that are either in the NHL,AHL, or college that other teams value way too much when it comes to trades.

For example, Brent Gates, a 19 year old center currently playing for Minnesota who's rights I own, has no interest in playing in the OHL. His ability and potential is 3.5/5 stars. To me its obvious this player will never come to the OHL, yet I'm able to trade his rights to any team in the league for their next three years worth of 1st round draft picks. I can't imagine any team in real life would give that up for a college player who has no interest in coming to the OHL.

I won't be going through with the trade to keep the game fair, but in my experience so far it's way to easy to trade player rights (especially in the NHL with players under contract in Russia or Sweden) As of right now its far too easy to take advantage of teams in trades like this.

JeffR · 02-20-2017, 03:59 PM

In this case, it looks like we need to lower the value the AI assigns to players with the wrong junior career path preference. But in general, if the value of player rights gets lowered much more, it becomes too easy to take advantage of the AI in the other direction, by trading for the rights AI-owned restricted free agents in early July, before the AI can get them under contract.

Charlie82 · 02-21-2017, 04:46 AM

My experience so far in the nhl suggests that bigger trades are working quite well. But are other people finding it too easy to hoard lower round picks? like a 5th pick for aging ahl fodder whose never going to be an nhl player. And then the team that signs them promptly puts them on waivers.

Woody19 · 02-21-2017, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie82

My experience so far in the nhl suggests that bigger trades are working quite well. But are other people finding it too easy to hoard lower round picks? like a 5th pick for aging ahl fodder whose never going to be an nhl player. And then the team that signs them promptly puts them on waivers.

I agree: it's quite easy to stack 4th round picks or lower by trading away low quality or old players. On the other hand, I find it very difficult to trade for 3rd round picks or higher.

handsome · 02-21-2017, 12:20 PM

there is a rule in junior hockey (ohl, whl, qmjhl) where you can't trade for 1st round picks anymore...that's why a lot of trades in reality involve a bunch of 2nd round picks for a star player.

...currently playing in the ohl with the frontenacs and just traded sam bennett's rights for two 2nd round picks and a solid 17 year old right winger (in reality that shouldn't happen because there is no way that calgary is sending him back to the ohl)

02-20-2017, 03:01 PM	#1
JeremyTyler28 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 20	AI Trade Logic Problem I'm currently the GM/Head Coach of the Owen Sound Attack of the OHL. I noticed there's a few players I still own the rights to that are either in the NHL,AHL, or college that other teams value way too much when it comes to trades. For example, Brent Gates, a 19 year old center currently playing for Minnesota who's rights I own, has no interest in playing in the OHL. His ability and potential is 3.5/5 stars. To me its obvious this player will never come to the OHL, yet I'm able to trade his rights to any team in the league for their next three years worth of 1st round draft picks. I can't imagine any team in real life would give that up for a college player who has no interest in coming to the OHL. I won't be going through with the trade to keep the game fair, but in my experience so far it's way to easy to trade player rights (especially in the NHL with players under contract in Russia or Sweden) As of right now its far too easy to take advantage of teams in trades like this.

02-20-2017, 03:59 PM	#2
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 16,623	In this case, it looks like we need to lower the value the AI assigns to players with the wrong junior career path preference. But in general, if the value of player rights gets lowered much more, it becomes too easy to take advantage of the AI in the other direction, by trading for the rights AI-owned restricted free agents in early July, before the AI can get them under contract.

02-21-2017, 04:46 AM	#3
Charlie82 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 18	My experience so far in the nhl suggests that bigger trades are working quite well. But are other people finding it too easy to hoard lower round picks? like a 5th pick for aging ahl fodder whose never going to be an nhl player. And then the team that signs them promptly puts them on waivers.

02-21-2017, 12:20 PM	#5
handsome Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 34	there is a rule in junior hockey (ohl, whl, qmjhl) where you can't trade for 1st round picks anymore...that's why a lot of trades in reality involve a bunch of 2nd round picks for a star player. ...currently playing in the ohl with the frontenacs and just traded sam bennett's rights for two 2nd round picks and a solid 17 year old right winger (in reality that shouldn't happen because there is no way that calgary is sending him back to the ohl)