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04-25-2012, 12:51 PM | #1 |
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Anyone prefer OSA Scouting over hiring a scout?
Are there any benefits of doing this? I wonder because I notice that most of my players have different ratings under OSA scouting than they do with the scout that I hired. Is OSA more accurate/neutral?
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04-25-2012, 01:04 PM | #2 |
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It all depends on the ratings of the scout you hired... But generally speaking, I believe OSA has average accuracy across the board. So if you have a scout that is rated higher than average, then that is probably the more accurate information.
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04-25-2012, 01:06 PM | #3 |
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That's good to know, Nunyer. Thanks. Any other thoughts?
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04-25-2012, 03:22 PM | #4 |
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OSA is below average, especially for players within your organization. According to the manual: "Most scouting directors who are available for hire will provide better information than the OSA scouts do. The bottom line is that you should use your own scouting department's information as a primary source of data."
Out of the Park Baseball Manual
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04-25-2012, 04:43 PM | #5 | |
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I brought this same quote up in another thread when the game first dropped because it's been often said on this board that when you turn scouting OFF you are then seeing the "real" ratings. Well when scouting is off the ratings are being given to you by OSA, correct? So how is it with scouting ON OSA then becomes this unreliable source? Just a little confused is all.. |
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04-26-2012, 12:27 AM | #7 |
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04-26-2012, 08:06 AM | #9 |
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04-26-2012, 08:22 AM | #10 |
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Because with scouting on OSA is given a "fog of war", for lack of a better term, to work as a counterpoint to your scouts (so you have to decide who is right) and when scouting is turned off that veil is removed and the true ratings are given. Really not that hard to comprehend.
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04-26-2012, 08:26 AM | #11 | |
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When scouting is off, the ratings are simply derived from the game itself without any filter or interpretation that a scout would otherwise provide. These are the true ratings, which OSA then creates scouting reports based upon.
edit - or what DCG12 said
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04-26-2012, 02:04 PM | #14 | |
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Cinnamon Scudworth answered the question three times and each time you came back with a semi-arguement even though he was explaining it pretty clearly. Hence my comprehend comment. I am usually very helpful when I can be but I don't have a ton of patience when it appears that someone is being difficult just to be difficult. Take the whole thread in context and I don't think it was a smart-ass comment. But either way I am done talking about it. |
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04-26-2012, 04:16 PM | #16 | |
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In YOUR opinion he explained it clearly. All he did was re-hash what the manual said which i had already read. I wasn't being difficult. If you re-read my question i was simply saying the manual contradicts itself by the way it is worded. The manual said nothing about OSA operating under the same fog of war that i was. Simple clarity is all i wanted so i could better understand but because you formed your own opinion on WHY i was asking then as u say HENCE your comment. I could care less about your patience because i wasn't even addressing you ...you jumped in. |
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04-26-2012, 08:22 PM | #17 |
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And I appreciate the follow-up because, frankly, I've never played with scouting off, so it's interesting to see how the ratings get portrayed. I didn't know they would be portrayed as "OSA" ratings. So I understand the confusion.
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04-27-2012, 01:13 PM | #18 |
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I think the insights shared on this thread make perfect sense. Having Scouting ON definitely adds a challenge to the game, because you have to rely on your scout to make good decisions rather than having pure ratings available for you to use. I just recently learned the difference between scouts that "Favor Tools" and scouts that "Favor Ability". That definitely helps the general manager out, depending on what kind of budget they are working with or how they want to build the team (through the draft OR by picking up players based on their current abilities).
I'm actually not a huge baseball fan, but the sports management aspects of this game are excellent. Can't wait for the hockey sim to come out! |
03-05-2015, 07:26 PM | #19 |
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I think the point is that the ratings are actual but the written reports are OSA
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