|
||||
|
04-06-2020, 12:38 PM | #21 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,629
|
Quote:
I was agreeing with syd who was responding to someone speaking about good/bad stats on high rep/bad rep coaches. As i mentioned, there are other ways the game can implement showing off a staff member’s strength. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
|
04-06-2020, 01:16 PM | #22 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 10,080
|
So... while I agree that the way coaching is handled could be improved, if you don't like the fact that you'll never know exactly whether or not that high-rep coach is actually helping or hurting your guys, my recommendation is to not use coaching in your game. That makes one less variable that you need to track, although of course that's going to increase the amount of randomness in terms of development (well, depending on how you define "random", not having complete information about your coaches can be "random" as well).
__________________
Quote:
|
|
04-06-2020, 01:38 PM | #23 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Juust a bit outside...
Posts: 5,623
|
Quote:
__________________
"Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet |
|
04-06-2020, 02:00 PM | #24 |
Hall Of Famer
|
One thing to consider is this: Are you using "relative ratings?
If you are, it's fairly easy to see who should be at what level...if you aren't (and I think perhaps more realistic since they seem to have reined in the over inflated ratings without relative). its a bit more strategic. You will have to weigh ratings vs stats. If you really want a challenge, try using the new feature which uses stats somewhat to formulate the overall/potential and component ratings. |
04-06-2020, 02:31 PM | #25 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Juust a bit outside...
Posts: 5,623
|
Quote:
__________________
"Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet |
|
04-06-2020, 03:20 PM | #26 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,629
|
Quote:
|
|
04-06-2020, 04:20 PM | #27 | |
All Star Reserve
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 538
|
Quote:
I'm pretty sure that Tony Larussa would know if his pitching coach was a turd or not. From our perspective though, it is impossible because we don't have enough information. If something isn't working out we don't know if the problem is the player, or the coaching, or plain bad luck. Dusty Baker stuck around so long because he was able to maintain great relationships with his players, which is something we can also see in OOTP. You and I think he is an idiot because of moves that we saw him make, which is also viewable in OOTP. He's someone with high player relationship scores and terrible strategy settings. Now if coaches started out blind and then you got an idea of how good they were after a year or two of experience, I'd be great with that. Even more great if abilities changed over time. JPeters, I've been complaining about this ever since the ability to view development influence was taken away from us, 6 or 7 years ago. I think this is ridiculous given how important player development is and honestly, coaches have come to bother me enough that it will be the sole influencer on whether I buy 22 or not. It's vexing because we all know the information is right there. It's been there all along. All OOTP needs to do is add it to the list of viewable information in the charts. It's also vexing because everyone in the game currently knows this information except the player. Coaches themselves know how good they are because I believe their demands are based on experience, reputation, AND skill. And I'm pretty sure actual skill is looked at when AI teams are hiring staff. |
|
04-06-2020, 04:26 PM | #28 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Juust a bit outside...
Posts: 5,623
|
Quote:
__________________
"Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet |
|
04-06-2020, 05:30 PM | #29 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,629
|
Quote:
language could also play a factor in coaching, development and building relationships. FM does a decent job here. Last edited by SirMichaelJordan; 04-06-2020 at 05:33 PM. |
|
04-06-2020, 05:59 PM | #30 | |
Minors (Double A)
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 162
|
Quote:
|
|
04-06-2020, 06:11 PM | #31 |
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,728
Infractions: 0/2 (5)
|
Yeah huge difference. If your mlb small market team basically no one will reach their 30s on your team. Unless they are a has been, a never was, or ridiculously injury ridden and youre rolling the dice. Couple veteran leadership roles maybe.
|
04-06-2020, 06:57 PM | #32 | |
Minors (Single A)
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Brooks, AB.
Posts: 70
|
I pretty much agree with all you said. Finding the right coach is the hardest part. What would be a cool addition would be to have the ability to interview a coach. shortlist say 10 guys you find. Maybe they are from free agents, or maybe they are from the minor league system. Hell maybe you can ask another team for permission to interview one of their minor league coaches. Even if the interview isn't a manual thing, maybe just have the interview results emailed to you. Could really be the game breaker to decide who the right coach is, and who you will offer that contract too.
Quote:
|
|
04-06-2020, 07:04 PM | #33 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,629
|
Tips for developing prospects?
Quote:
Interview process have been asked for before. It would be a great addition. Pretty much scouting for coaches. This would add immersion and keep the fog affect OOTP trying to accomplish now. But as mentioned other times this have been brought up, some would say why not skip the interview process and just reveal everything. I think the latter is best of both worlds because I think the game want to get away from “sorting and picking the best guy available” Coaching is due for a revamp so hopefully we will see something soon along with the addition of more staff like 3B coach. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by SirMichaelJordan; 04-06-2020 at 07:05 PM. |
|
04-06-2020, 07:41 PM | #34 |
Minors (Double A)
|
First thing I do when I take over a team is cut 95% of my minor leaguers with low leader, low work ethic, and low intelligence.
Then absolutely fill my entire minors with tons of high leader, high work ethic, and high intelligence guys. It certainly helps a lot. |
04-06-2020, 10:28 PM | #35 | ||
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 10,080
|
Quote:
__________________
Quote:
|
||
04-07-2020, 07:54 AM | #36 |
Minors (Double A)
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 100
Infractions: 0/1 (1)
|
I've noticed people suggesting you should go off of stats to make your development decisions...isn't that the wrong thing to do? Stats can be very misleading, and it can take ages for them to normalize (i.e.Johnny has a .400 wOBA in AAA....does that mean he's ready for the Majors? How do you know, 2 months isn't a big sample size). I would've thought the ratings my scout provides are a better predictor of what a player is today, that's why I am paying the top scout with a $24M budget, to tell me what a player is and will be. It tells me what level my player should be in at this moment (i.e. 38 OVR in MLB, 45 AAA, 54 AA...sounds like he should be in AA right now)
|
04-07-2020, 08:11 AM | #37 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Juust a bit outside...
Posts: 5,623
|
Quote:
__________________
"Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet |
|
04-07-2020, 08:15 AM | #38 | |
All Star Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,255
|
Quote:
The problem with ratings (unless you use the 20-80 scale with increments of 5) is that it’s not realistic. Managers and GMs don’t have these ratings to go off of and can only go off of stats. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
|
04-07-2020, 08:19 AM | #39 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Juust a bit outside...
Posts: 5,623
|
i emphatically disagree with that statement. Ratings do for us what actually seeing the player take batting practice, fielding work, throwing bullpen sessions do for the coaches and scouts. Real managers and GM do not only look at stats. Why else would teams spend millions to have scouts scour the globe for players if they could just look at their stats?
__________________
"Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet |
04-07-2020, 08:41 AM | #40 | |
All Star Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,255
|
Quote:
My point is the only real scale used to 20-80 in increments of 5. The ratings we have, I believe, are far in excess of what managers and GMs have in reality. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
|
Bookmarks |
|
|