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06-21-2018, 04:25 PM | #41 |
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Feel free to send it to my dropbox if that's easier: https://www.dropbox.com/request/yRxTitawf2CVGb371QSa
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06-21-2018, 04:33 PM | #42 | |
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06-21-2018, 04:36 PM | #43 |
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NYY - 12th STL - 16th BOS - 18th 1) On 11/15, NYY signs a Type A from STL, so now STL gets the 12th overall pick to go along with its 16th overall pick it already has. NYY won't get a first round pick unless someone signs one of their Type As. So it's like this: STL - 12th STL - 16th BOS - 18th 2) On 11/30, STL signs a Type A from BOS. In real life, the 12th pick STL got from NYY would be protected, and BOS would receive STL's original first round pick, which was the 16th overall pick. But OOTP doesn't protect the compensation pick from NYY, so BOS gets that 12th pick instead. Now it's like this: BOS - 12th STL - 16th BOS - 18th So NYY isn't losing an additional pick - as soon as they signed the FA from STL and forfeited the 12th pick, that was that - they either need to wait until the supplemental round or round 2, or hope that someone signs one of their Type A FAs and gives them a compensation first rounder. And STL is only getting moderately screwed, as BOS should have been awarded the 16th overall pick instead of the 12th overall pick. In other words, in real life it should be: STL - 12th BOS - 16th BOS - 18th Maybe in future versions OOTP can put in some logic to protect compensation picks, but since the CBA rules change this process every time, it might be too hard to keep up with. We might just have to live with some of these quirks, but it does help to understand the quirks so you can plan ahead. I got burnt in my league recently on this - I tried to sign my Type A FAs early in the offseason so that when other teams signed my Type As, I wouldn't have to give up the compensation pick I got from them. And one of my departing Type As signed with another team and gave me the 18th overall pick as compensation *JUST ONE DAY* before one of the Type As I was pursuing agreed to sign with me. So since my original 1st round pick was 26th, I lost that juicy 18th overall compensation pick I'd just gotten!! Anyway, hope you get it all figured out with Matt - good luck! |
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06-22-2018, 12:26 AM | #45 |
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In terms of free agents and compensation:
(1985?) 1990-2006 Type A free agents: Top 30%; draft pick from signing team plus special pick between 1st and 2nd round Type B free agents: 31%-50%; draft pick from signing team Type C free agents: 51%-60%; special draft pick between 2nd and 3rd round Unranked free agents: 61% and below; no compensation 2007-2011 Type A free agents: Top 20%; draft pick from signing team plus special pick between 1st and 2nd round Type B free agents: 21%-40%; special pick between 1st and 2nd round Unranked free agents: 41% and below; no compensation |
06-22-2018, 10:27 AM | #46 | |
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I'm guessing what might be happening is that the game is getting confused about protected picks or not. Since in the off-season when the guys get signed away, the game is probably thinking the protected picks are based on the 1905 standings, but then when you go to do the actual draft, it will end up based on 1906 standings. But that's only a guess. And it still doesn't explain the lack of supplemental picks. All this is just really weird. |
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06-22-2018, 01:22 PM | #47 | |
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06-22-2018, 01:59 PM | #48 |
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I think I'm just going to take the comp picks as they come and the supplemental round as is. I will change the basic draft order because sometimes (when there's a tie in records) it seems out of order to me. It all just makes my brain hurt. I will however upload the .dat files on the two different dates to the dropbox site to see if there's anything in there that if changed can help OOTP get better, if that's what's needed.
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06-22-2018, 02:34 PM | #49 |
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I think I might just redo a lot of how we process picks. Right now we kind of try to process some stuff as it comes in, and then some stuff when the draft comes along. I think by moving all the logic to when we actually generate draft orders, that will help.
At least, hopefully it doesn't screw things up more. Probably there will be some weird cases if you have the pre-2012 CBA and draft pick trading enabled, but hopefully weird things are kept to a minimum... |
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06-22-2018, 02:49 PM | #51 | |
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06-22-2018, 03:03 PM | #52 |
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The final draft order is set on draft day, but yes, it should be based on the most recent season.
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06-22-2018, 03:05 PM | #53 |
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Reading this my not only making my 🧠 hurt but also discouraging me for ever messing with anything that even hints of draft pick compensation in any way, shape or form.
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06-22-2018, 04:11 PM | #54 | |
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Matt, if you do retool all the draft compensation stuff at some point, please make a big, giant, bulleted point of it in the patch or game changelog description - I will want to monitor closely the first few drafts afterwards to make sure I update my notes with the new way things work! |
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06-22-2018, 04:15 PM | #55 | |
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But yes, I think I've simplified a little of the logic so that it's easier to calculate, we won't screw up assigning them around on the fly. And a bonus - we should actually be able to give away picks properly now if a team signs multiple type-A guys in the same year - it won't be based on when they sign anymore! If I'm still happy with this early next week, I might even try to get the new compensation rules too, although those add a mess of new issues on their own... |
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06-22-2018, 04:43 PM | #58 | |
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It should be remembered too that, prior to 2005, draft selections alternated by league. This was true for both the amateur draft and the Rule 5 draft. Perhaps taking a look at how other leagues that do have draft trading and free agent draft compensation handle which picks can be traded, and when, might be helpful in guiding what OOTP should do in such non-MLB scenarios. |
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