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01-04-2020, 03:04 PM | #1 |
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OSA scouting is broken?
I did some testing with scouting accuracy and OSA is always right, and doesn't matter the level of scouting accuracy, OSA will always have 100% accuracy on all the players on my saves, is that a bug or there is a option that i enabled without knowing about? I tested this behavior in more than 1 save and OSA always have 100% accuracy.
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01-04-2020, 05:28 PM | #3 |
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I started a new game as the rays, when the draft pool was announced i decided to check the players on the pool, and then i noticed that OSA had a huge disparity in ratings from my scout, so i got curious and went in the options and changed the scout accuracy from normal to 100%, and all the players OSA stated were going to have a big potential were on top of the list but the ones my scout liked were all down on the list, just like OSA was telling me they were going to be. So i decided to check this with more players while changing the scout accuracy through normal, low and 100%, and all the times OSA would be correct about the players potential and current overall. After that i created a fresh save and did the same and OSA was correct once again, and at last i created a fictional save too just in case, and OSA was 100% correct once again too! I looked through my options to see if i changed something but i did not, so i don't know what is happening, OSA is always 100% accurate on all the players on my game, and this is making having a scout unnecessary. All the times that i was changing the scout accuracy i clicked on Run full re-scouting and some of the times i even clicked on the clean up scouting database option. |
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01-08-2020, 07:50 AM | #5 | |
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The potential ratings at that point is their truth, but once the players fully develop they are generally a complete different animal. This thread is very misleading. Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk Last edited by Sharkn20; 01-08-2020 at 07:53 AM. |
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01-08-2020, 01:07 PM | #6 |
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I don't even know what that means. Shouldn't OSA ratings work the same as scout ratings in terms of accuracy or "fog of war"? From what I gather from this thread, the OP is saying that it isn't the case that it does. In fact he's stating that it seems that OSA gives you scouting at 100% accuracy no matter what settings you have for scouting accuracy. Now this thread is a bit confusing so maybe I totally missed the mark on what is being stated but that was my interpretation.
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01-08-2020, 01:38 PM | #7 |
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What this experiment shows is that, when scouting accuracy is set to 100 percent, all scouts agree with the POT OSA ratings. It doesn't show that the OSA ratings are an accurate prediction of future performance.
An experiment that would be meaningful is this: Select a large number of draft-eligible players. Sort them by the difference between their OSA ratings and the ratings given by a scout with a "Legendary" rating for scouting amateurs. Simulate 20 years, compare the careers of the selected players, and determine from that whose Potential ratings were more on-target. |
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01-08-2020, 01:46 PM | #9 |
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What this thread's hypothesis is saying is that OSA is the best scouting tool, and always accurate. That it will be better to use OSA than having a scout with all LEGENDARY ratings.
If this is true that would be a big disappointment, and would render a major part of the game not working as intended. Maybe I'll look at it sometime to provide another data point. Others can do so as well. |
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01-08-2020, 02:00 PM | #11 | |
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I've read the OP at least a half dozen times and I can't fully comprehend what the hypothesis is. If someone has a more succinct way of explaining it and the author of the OP could confirm it's right, that would be helpful (for me, at least). EDIT: I guess what I should say is that I don't understand the evidence behind the hypothesis. I get that the OP says OSA scouting is always right. But I can't follow the explanation of the evidence no matter how many times I read it. Last edited by BIG17EASY; 01-08-2020 at 02:02 PM. |
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I'll say it again ... until someone compares OSA ratings to the actual ratings in the player editor, there's no way to tell what's right and what's wrong. |
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01-08-2020, 05:57 PM | #14 |
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My interpretation of OP's analysis
I think the point OP is making is that OSA's ratings and evaluations always match the "100% accurate" scout setting. And the problem with this is OSA is, or was at some point in OOTP's history, positioned as a conglomerate generic scouting agency that everyone has access to. So if OSA is always 100% accurate, then that means there is no fog of war with OSA. I guess the assumption or preference is that OSA is just another scout. May be 100% accurate, may be 50% accurate. We shouldn't know.
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01-08-2020, 06:56 PM | #16 |
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One thing important to note is that on 100% accuracy, OSA is also 100% accurate. So if you set things to 100% accurate, your scout will match OSA exactly.
Otherwise, they certainly won't be 100% all the time. The simplest way to check that is to simply take a save and see OSA ratings for specific players on both normal and 100%, and see that the OSA ratings change between the two. |
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01-08-2020, 09:27 PM | #18 |
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Ok that didn't take very long. I started a modern QS, simmed to the point of the draft class being released and then took a look at the first guy listed in the email, Andrew Vaughn. I started with scouting accuracy at the lowest setting and then moved it up one spot, did a full rescout and took another look at the scouting page. As you can see, after just doing this three times such that the last one was at a scouting accuracy of "normal", the OSA scouted ratings are obviously changing each time. Therefore I'm not sure what the OP discovered since it appears that Matt's reply was correct in that those ratings do change, regardless of what was posted by the OP. Below are what I saw at each scouting level, from very low to low and then at normal.
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01-08-2020, 10:01 PM | #19 |
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Only thing i see from above poster is that OSA ratings do not change drastically, even the potential remains the same, and the team's scout ratings are all over the place .. it proves the OP is correct when he says that OSA's ratings are always accurate ..
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01-08-2020, 11:39 PM | #20 |
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If they were always accurate then they wouldn't change as you change scouting accuracy. The claim made by the OP is that those ratings didn't change. I showed how there is a change just going from "very low" to "low" to "normal" scouting accuracy. There is still "high", "very high" and "100%" to go. I showed that the OP was incorrect in his assertion that those ratings didn't change as you changed scouting accuracy. That was all I was trying to investigate since Matt said they did and the OP said they didn't.
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