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08-18-2009, 01:53 AM | #1 |
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25 Man active / 40 Man roster
I just bought ootpx and am in five leagues, one I am running with a friend. I never followed the behind the scenes of baseball, waivers, acitve, 40 man, dfa, etc...
Now I would like someone to help me understand the 25 man active roster and 40 man. From what I know, 25 active is the ML team, 40 man is all players with ML contracts ??? But one problem I have is when I want to move someone up I have to make space and dont really want to get rid of the player. Now I know when someone is injured on active and is placed on 60 day they are taken off active/40 man which makes room. So how can I move players around without losing them ??? |
08-18-2009, 08:12 AM | #2 |
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To make room on your 40-man roster, you have to expose them to waivers. This means every other team has the opportunity to claim the player. However, if nobody claims him, you can remove the player from your 40-man roster, send him to the minors, and still keep him in your organization.
To make room immediately, you can designate the player for assignment. This basically gives you a certain period of time to either waive the player or trade the player while not taking room on the 40-man roster. In MLB, this period is 10 days. In OOTP, there is a command to 'waive and designate for assignment' that takes care of this. It is commonly done in tandem. Make your additions to the 40-man roster carefully, because once you do it, you risk losing the player if you change your mind. Last edited by TribeFanInNC; 08-18-2009 at 03:14 PM. |
08-18-2009, 11:51 AM | #3 |
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Good answer above..
I think the key statement, is select who you place on the 40 man roster carefully, it does not always have to be at 40 thus, if you are unsure who you want to add, and they will not be exposed to the "Rule 5 Draft", you can keep the list at under 40 and add when you need to. I often carry my 40 man at about 35-37 players and only decide to add a player just before the Rule 5 draft to protect him if I see him as someone that will eventually make my MLB club. Quite often you will see guys at AA and A that are up for Rule 5, but rarely will another team take them so you would be wasting a spot on the 40 man roster for them just to protect them. |
08-18-2009, 12:18 PM | #4 |
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Where can I get more info on the rule 5 draft ???
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08-18-2009, 12:49 PM | #5 |
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On Google and other search engines. I found this on Wilipedia:
"The Rule 5 draft is a Major League Baseball player draft that occurs each year in December, at the annual Winter Meeting of general managers. The Rule 5 draft aims to prevent teams from stockpiling too many young players on their minor league affiliate teams when other teams would be willing to have them play in the majors. The Rule 5 Draft is named for its place in the Major League rules. The June Rule 4 draft, known as simply "the draft" or the "amateur draft", is a distinctly different process in which teams select high school and college players" And there is a lot info on GOOGLE. |
08-18-2009, 12:51 PM | #6 |
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The online manual discribes the Rule 5 draft pretty well as well as the "news message" you will get on the day of the draft.. (usually December 1st)
Basically its designed to ensure that players with 4-5 years professional experience (basically since draft and depends on they age they were drafted at) aren't stuck in an organization that has yet to promote them to the 40 man roster whereas another organization feels they could use them. On your Transaction page, players marked with an "#" are eligible for the Rule 5 draft and you could lose them without compensation unless you protect them on the 40 man roster. You need to pick and choose carefully as not all players are worthy of putting on your 40 man roster, nor will someone else want them. The Rule 5 was put in place to ensure that organizations were not hiding talent in the lower leaques that could help out other teams MLB teams. |
08-18-2009, 02:52 PM | #7 |
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To clarify one point from the OP. A player can be on the 40 man roster and not have a major league contract. However in reverse, if a player has a major league contract, they must be on the 40 man roster.
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08-18-2009, 03:51 PM | #8 |
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And one thing to be careful about the rule 5 draft, if you trade for someone shortly before, make sure you bring them up to your team before the rule 5 draft. I made a huge deal the day before the draft, got me a 3B with good D who was like 12 contact 20 power (on a 1-20 scale), then start the rule 5 draft and see, "Ramon Jean has been drafted by XXX." Umm, crap. Thank God for Commisioner mode.
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08-23-2009, 01:28 PM | #10 |
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Can anyone tell me when the 40 man roster empties for the upcoming season? I just finished my first season. I’m now in “offseason” and there are players on my 40 man roster that I really don’t want there. I’m assuming that at some point during the offseason anyone who is not on the 25 man roster will disappear from the 40. True?
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08-23-2009, 02:34 PM | #11 | |
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(A) Assigning the player outright to the minor leagues (this requires waivers); (B) Unconditionally releasing the player (this also requires waivers); or (C) Trading the player to another major league club (this requires waivers if the trade takes place after the trade deadline). |
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I'm resurrecting an old thread, I know, but this point has come up in our online league and it doesn't make sense to me.
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I know, it's a poor source, but wikipedia seems to confirm this when it says: Quote:
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Still being paid their guaranteed contract makes sense, but is it just the case that it's no longer considered a major league contract once a player is outrighted? Perhaps that is the case, but for OOTP's purposes, if they're still supposed to get paid the same then I think it's fine that OOTP doesn't require players with major league contracts to be on the secondary roster. I tried to find some sort of confirmation or denial in the CBA, but it directed me to Major League Rule 10 which didn't help much. On another page I did see this: Quote:
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