10/5 Rule Veterans Have Right to Veto Trades

Ross333 · 05-11-2018, 12:05 PM

Hello
I understand how this option is supposed to work, but does it work correctly? Veterans with 10 years of MLB time and 5 years with one team have the RIGHT to veto a proposed trade involving them, but do they ALWAYS exercise that right in this game? I have tried to trade, and trade for, these veterans and I have ALWAYS seen then exercise the right and veto the trade. Has anyone seen an applicable veteran allow the trade to go forward? It would be a fun feature to be able to coax the unwilling veteran into the trade with a bonus, contract extension or some other consideration.

Airdrop01 · 05-11-2018, 12:34 PM

I have had those guys not exercise that right. It's rare, but I've had it happen.

Ross333 · 05-11-2018, 12:40 PM

Can you describe the circumstance? I haven't seen it under any circumstance, just a flat rejection - even in circumstances when players usually accept such deals: end of career veterans or others who have a chance to go to a playoff bound team right before their contract is about to expire.

RchW · 05-11-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Airdrop01

I have had those guys not exercise that right. It's rare, but I've had it happen.

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Originally Posted by Ross333

Can you describe the circumstance? I haven't seen it under any circumstance, just a flat rejection - even in circumstances when players usually accept such deals: end of career veterans or others who have a chance to go to a playoff bound team right before their contract is about to expire.

Me too but you usually don't realize until after the trade because the 10/5 thing just doesn't come up. Maybe M or M could put a flag in the trade screen.

Qeltar · 05-11-2018, 01:14 PM

I see it as soon as I try to drag a 10/5 guy into the trade window.

Mets52 · 05-11-2018, 01:20 PM

I generally play with this option off

RchW · 05-11-2018, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Qeltar

I see it as soon as I try to drag a 10/5 guy into the trade window.

Exactly, but if he consents you see nothing. The 2 or 3 times it's happened for me I found out well after the trade following their progress.

Champ_Sanders · 05-11-2018, 01:38 PM

I have not done this in OOTP 19, but in 18 if the player was unhappy they would waive the no-trade.

If they have option years send them down to AA and they will be excited to leave the team.

Juggernt · 05-11-2018, 02:13 PM

The time's I've had them not invoke the 10/5 is when I've shopped them around to other teams, then hit the trade button on someone that's worthwhile--and then move into negotiating mode. Never take the AI's first offer.

RchW · 05-11-2018, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Juggernt

The time's I've had them not invoke the 10/5 is when I've shopped them around to other teams, then hit the trade button on someone that's worthwhile--and then move into negotiating mode. Never take the AI's first offer.

Correct but the players who invoke 10/5 can't be shopped AFAIK.

RchW · 05-11-2018, 03:31 PM

Dola, this was 50 seasons ago but I found him in the batting register. Traded him just before opening day after 11 seasons from 2016-27

05-11-2018, 12:05 PM	#1
Ross333 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 67	10/5 Rule Veterans Have Right to Veto Trades Hello I understand how this option is supposed to work, but does it work correctly? Veterans with 10 years of MLB time and 5 years with one team have the RIGHT to veto a proposed trade involving them, but do they ALWAYS exercise that right in this game? I have tried to trade, and trade for, these veterans and I have ALWAYS seen then exercise the right and veto the trade. Has anyone seen an applicable veteran allow the trade to go forward? It would be a fun feature to be able to coax the unwilling veteran into the trade with a bonus, contract extension or some other consideration.

05-11-2018, 12:34 PM	#2
Airdrop01 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lenexa, KS / Wilson, WY Posts: 1,354	I have had those guys not exercise that right. It's rare, but I've had it happen. __________________

05-11-2018, 03:31 PM	#11
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	Dola, this was 50 seasons ago but I found him in the batting register. Traded him just before opening day after 11 seasons from 2016-27 Attached Images __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

05-11-2018, 12:40 PM	#3
Ross333 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 67	Can you describe the circumstance? I haven't seen it under any circumstance, just a flat rejection - even in circumstances when players usually accept such deals: end of career veterans or others who have a chance to go to a playoff bound team right before their contract is about to expire.

05-11-2018, 01:14 PM	#5
Qeltar Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 382	I see it as soon as I try to drag a 10/5 guy into the trade window.

05-11-2018, 01:20 PM	#6
Mets52 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 124	I generally play with this option off

05-11-2018, 01:38 PM	#8
Champ_Sanders Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 14	I have not done this in OOTP 19, but in 18 if the player was unhappy they would waive the no-trade. If they have option years send them down to AA and they will be excited to leave the team.

05-11-2018, 02:13 PM	#9
Juggernt Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 357	The time's I've had them not invoke the 10/5 is when I've shopped them around to other teams, then hit the trade button on someone that's worthwhile--and then move into negotiating mode. Never take the AI's first offer.