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07-22-2019, 09:54 AM | #161 |
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Woo! Already have 13/16 Milwaukee Braves.
Not So Woo! The prices of what I need will probably take me 6 months of PP now
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Collections is one of those things that should be more fun than it is.
If you have a bunch of cards towards a mission and are trying to complete it then buying your missing cards can be a good deal. But I find for my historical teams - the ones that don't open a lot of packs - if I see a collection reward I like, I'm starting from scratch. And when you do that, buying the cards seems almost always more expensive than just buying the reward outright. As much fun as the collecting might be, I can't justify paying 2...5...10k PP more than I have to just to get one card. It makes me a little sad, but I'm not sure anything can be done about it (other than being incredibly patient and trying to work the AH). |
07-22-2019, 11:59 AM | #163 |
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Ultimate Team solved this a long time ago even if the gameplay itself is lousy and EA screws other things up. The SBCs are probably the most fun part of the game.
1) Reward packs instead of points. One of the biggest problems is that there is simply no incentive to buy packs in this game which keeps supply of cards very low. Aside from the two free packs per week and some people trying to do pack only teams, new cards are not getting into the economy. 2) Allow more options instead of a set list of requirements to avoid price-fixed bottlenecks. A FIFA squad building challenge might require 11 players with an overall rating of 86 and at least three have to be a certain nationality, or something like that. For a few high end collections that reward real perfect level players this is fine, but the vast majority of collections cost way more than the reward is worth since you need to get everything. I've done maybe 5 total missions that reward a pack and only required a small number of the eligible cards. Those were fun. Everything else I'm mildly interested in I check out then see you need some bronze historical that has one copy on the market for 3K. yuck. |
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07-22-2019, 12:08 PM | #165 |
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If a collection takes me 2 or 3 weeks, I don’t mind having spent more PP (to a point) than buying the SE, because slowly completing it is a fun & ongoing experience.
I’ve only completed.... 5 major missions though (ie. card reward+)
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Maybe for a tiny moment at the point a new mission goes live (which apparently was on display today) the component cards will be cheaper than the estimated value of the reward. But as more people get into buying cards to get the reward, the price goes up due to demand. And there's 10k+ accounts in PT 20, so that is a lot of demand for, say, 1986 Bob Ojedas.
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07-22-2019, 01:04 PM | #167 |
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Furthermore, the business opportunists will take advantage(trust me, these mofos work as hard on the market as MLB pitchers work on their pitching mechanics) of the short time frame to jack up the price of the components until it is at least +-0 of the mission reward.
Edit: Did not think it thoroughly, the move for first few days is always overpricing the cards, so +-0 is definitely not the minimum. Last edited by Goliathus; 07-22-2019 at 01:18 PM. |
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So that's the situation where the reward is worth less (or even a lot less) than the component cards. Is there ever a situation where the reward would be worth more (a lot more?) than the component cards? I'm not sure that situation could exist - the component cards would just get driven up in price. Also: is there really a demand for Bob Ojeda? I have one I will sell in a heartbeat if so! |
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07-22-2019, 02:00 PM | #169 |
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several of the ones rewarding packs are "worth" more than the component cards
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07-22-2019, 02:00 PM | #170 |
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I hope that the end game for collections is to have every single card in game be a part of at least one mission.
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I tried Plank in the rotation last week and he got 10 starts to the tune of a 5.77 ERA. Put him in the bullpen for the playoffs and he pitched 1 inning and gave up 4 runs. Decided to put him in long relief this season and not give up on him too quickly, but he's made 4 relief appearances and has a 24.00 ERA and 4.34 WHIP. He has yet to make a relief appearance without giving up at least 3 runs. His ratings are 91/82/70 as a relief pitcher so it's disappointing and unexpected. Very disappointing. Especially considering that Matt Chapman has gone perfect again, but he's locked to my team...that opportunity cost tho. Plank is suffering from a .576 BABIP right now, but I'm starting to get a little antsy nonetheless.
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EDIT: To clarify, the only head start I got on this collection was about 10 low-OVR bronze and iron LIVE series cards which are not in other pack collections. So maybe a 500 PP head start if you're generous. The arbitrage opportunities can be there if you look for them in the right place.
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Business opportunists driven those card prices up is pretty much the reason why we don't get a lot of +EV situations. The reward worth more than the component cards situation is really there only if you had some key cards for cheap before the missions are available, like me having Wang for a long time makes Kuo very affordable. I am sure the hardcore fans of a team who are already working on a team-based theme team are also rewarded this way. Aside from those situations, not really. The closest is probably the pack missions for being easy to do. |
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07-23-2019, 03:26 PM | #174 |
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With the promotion of Kris Bryant to perfect, it has officially become un-economic to do the live Cubs mission. I had all but 2 of the live Cubs (was missing Contreras and Kimbrel). With Bryant going to Perfect and Rizzo going to Diamond, and the reward card (Hippo Vaughn) selling for around 20k, I insta-sold the two of them (don't hate me!) and got the reward.
There's two more missions I'm working on, and I've already decided I'm purchasing the reward for one of them outright. With the last one, it's unclear whether it'll be cheaper to get the component cards or whether buying the reward is better - with this last collection there is one card I would probably use on my team, so it seems that might swing the pendulum towards buying the individual cards for the mission. |
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07-26-2019, 04:25 PM | #177 |
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Anyone know about how much it would cost to buy the Yankees LIVE Collection for the Special Rickey versus buying him outright?
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07-26-2019, 07:05 PM | #178 |
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This answer will change between now and 1 August
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07-26-2019, 09:53 PM | #179 |
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I don't understand Dogberry's answer (unless he's hinting that Judge will hit 100) but assuming you started with no Yankees, my back-of-the-envelope calculation is that you'd spend around 89k.
If you are considering it, I'd look to get Judge since it does appear he could hit 100. Unless you overpay like crazy there's very little downside to getting the card now while you think about it. |
07-26-2019, 11:23 PM | #180 |
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The Yankees would be likely to trade for players leading up to the July 31 trade deadline. This would add to the cost of completing the Yankees Live collection.
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