How to set up financials for a parallel Major League

jpeters1734 · 12-19-2014, 08:42 PM

I'm into my 16 team fictional league and I have decided that I want a second ML to rise from the west. Eventually over time they may join, but for now I want them to compete for free agents. I want the new league to start off far below the level of income of the old league.

What I have done so far is limited the stadium capacity, baseline attendance, and ticket price baseline for the new league. I made the media contract baseline's the same as the old league. But, I have set all the market sizes to 0. I want this league to gradually evolve into a money making league.

What I am having trouble figuring out is should I set the player demands the same as the old league? I know the minimum should be lower because I don't want the teams spending all their money on just minimum contracts. I am wondering about the good players and up. I don't want a good player to take less money in the new league because he's getting "superstar" money, where in the old league average players are making that much.

The Game · 12-20-2014, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

I'm into my 16 team fictional league and I have decided that I want a second ML to rise from the west. Eventually over time they may join, but for now I want them to compete for free agents. I want the new league to start off far below the level of income of the old league.

What I have done so far is limited the stadium capacity, baseline attendance, and ticket price baseline for the new league. I made the media contract baseline's the same as the old league. But, I have set all the market sizes to 0. I want this league to gradually evolve into a money making league.

What I am having trouble figuring out is should I set the player demands the same as the old league? I know the minimum should be lower because I don't want the teams spending all their money on just minimum contracts. I am wondering about the good players and up. I don't want a good player to take less money in the new league because he's getting "superstar" money, where in the old league average players are making that much.

When i started the EBL I set everything to 1973. I am know at 1992 settings and the EBL loses out on major FA's because of the $$ that they can get in modern MLB or CBF which is set to 2002, so I dont think setting the player demands lower will get any good FA's to go to the 2nd league.
In some ways it's cool that the best players will not sign with the EBL in other ways it makes it a challenge not to have a AAA league.
How is the market size of 0 working out? I have plans for a 2nd league like the PCL challenging my ABF league starting in 1920 and merging in 1960. Also have plans for an American League starting in 2010 and seeing what happens.

jpeters1734 · 12-20-2014, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Game

When i started the EBL I set everything to 1973. I am know at 1992 settings and the EBL loses out on major FA's because of the $$ that they can get in modern MLB or CBF which is set to 2002, so I dont think setting the player demands lower will get any good FA's to go to the 2nd league.
In some ways it's cool that the best players will not sign with the EBL in other ways it makes it a challenge not to have a AAA league.
How is the market size of 0 working out? I have plans for a 2nd league like the PCL challenging my ABF league starting in 1920 and merging in 1960. Also have plans for an American League starting in 2010 and seeing what happens.

The 0 market size works perfect. Those teams get around 4-5 mil in media and the older league teams get from 50 to 100 mil. It really works to set the media contract baseline's the same.

One issue I am having is players demanding and signing for crazy contracts in either league when their ratings and performance doesn't match up. Could it be an issue with the ratings relative to the league selected? I wonder if they think that they are great in the newer league so they should get paid as great in the old league.

Trebro · 12-20-2014, 01:32 PM

In my experiencevtesting multi leagues with different budgets and pay structure, the lower leagues always had a Ralph Kiner type they were paying way more than rest of team. Never figured out how to mitigate that in a free agent environment.

chucksabr · 12-22-2014, 09:48 AM

Part of this is going to depend on what the aspirations of your west league are. Are they trying to become the equal of your east league, or eventually want a merger? Or are they going to be OK carving out their niche in the west?

If it's the former, you might want to set them lower but still close in financials to the east league, with the top teams in the second league being the equal of the top league's midpoint, and the west's superstars' salaries being the equal (or darn close) of the east's superstars' salaries, but the salaries for all the other levels lagging behind. That way you will have fewer guys on top salaries in your west league than your east league. For more realism, you might consider having league jumpers in which guys in the 11-25 range of top players in the east jump to the west league for a top 10 level salary.

If the west is happy carving out their own niche, then you will want to put some more distance between the two, and one way to do that is by making the west league an independent minor league at the AAA level. In this scenario, you might have lower level league jumpers in which bench players in the east jump to the west for starting jobs and better paychecks.

12-19-2014, 08:42 PM	#1
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 5,617	How to set up financials for a parallel Major League I'm into my 16 team fictional league and I have decided that I want a second ML to rise from the west. Eventually over time they may join, but for now I want them to compete for free agents. I want the new league to start off far below the level of income of the old league. What I have done so far is limited the stadium capacity, baseline attendance, and ticket price baseline for the new league. I made the media contract baseline's the same as the old league. But, I have set all the market sizes to 0. I want this league to gradually evolve into a money making league. What I am having trouble figuring out is should I set the player demands the same as the old league? I know the minimum should be lower because I don't want the teams spending all their money on just minimum contracts. I am wondering about the good players and up. I don't want a good player to take less money in the new league because he's getting "superstar" money, where in the old league average players are making that much. __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet

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chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,172	Part of this is going to depend on what the aspirations of your west league are. Are they trying to become the equal of your east league, or eventually want a merger? Or are they going to be OK carving out their niche in the west? If it's the former, you might want to set them lower but still close in financials to the east league, with the top teams in the second league being the equal of the top league's midpoint, and the west's superstars' salaries being the equal (or darn close) of the east's superstars' salaries, but the salaries for all the other levels lagging behind. That way you will have fewer guys on top salaries in your west league than your east league. For more realism, you might consider having league jumpers in which guys in the 11-25 range of top players in the east jump to the west league for a top 10 level salary. If the west is happy carving out their own niche, then you will want to put some more distance between the two, and one way to do that is by making the west league an independent minor league at the AAA level. In this scenario, you might have lower level league jumpers in which bench players in the east jump to the west for starting jobs and better paychecks. __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

12-20-2014, 01:32 PM	#4
Trebro All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 753 Blog Entries: 1	In my experiencevtesting multi leagues with different budgets and pay structure, the lower leagues always had a Ralph Kiner type they were paying way more than rest of team. Never figured out how to mitigate that in a free agent environment.