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Old 01-25-2014, 01:14 PM   #1
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Resting players in one game playoff

I was just looking at the boxscore from a wild card play in game in my league and noticed that one team sat a player that had 36 HR and 125 RBI on the season. It was an NL game so DH wasn't a factor. Looking at his card, he didn't have an injury and is now at 100% rest. Even if he was a little tired at the time (he's not a catcher), he should have been in that game.

Is the wild card play in game considered a regular season game? That's the only reason I can come up with is that the AI considers it regular season and maybe it was his turn to rest.

Hopefully this (and getting pitching rotations properly set up for the playoffs) will be addressed in 15
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Old 01-25-2014, 03:19 PM   #2
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A one-game playoff would be considered part of the regular season. So this seems like questionable AI.
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Old 01-25-2014, 07:35 PM   #3
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I personally always reset fatigue on the last day of the season before I advance day to the playoffs. I submit that OOTP should reset fatigue automatically and use primary line-ups on the the 1st playoff game of the playoffs.
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I personally always reset fatigue on the last day of the season before I advance day to the playoffs. I submit that OOTP should reset fatigue automatically and use primary line-ups on the the 1st playoff game of the playoffs.
Doesn't that mean that all teams in your league start the playoffs with their #1 SP on the mound even though he may have just pitched the last game of the season 2 days ago to clinch a playoff berth?

I would not want OOTP to reset fatigue for me. Unless you are in a one game playoff, as the OP was, you should have a day off before the first game of your playoff series. This dayoff will take care of position player fatigue but will leave pitchers with some fatigue, as it should.

If I have to win on the last day of the season or go home so throw my best SP or go through my bullpen's best or even dip into my starting rotation to get that "must" win I shouldn't be starting my playoff series with a fresh staff.

As to the original post, yes I think though a one game playoff is part of the regular season, OOTP should recognize that the one game playoff is a unique "regular" season game and act accordingly.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:47 AM   #5
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A one-game playoff would be considered part of the regular season. So this seems like questionable AI.
Just to clarify...it wasn't a game 163, it was the new wild card one game play in. Either way, the best players should play.
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Doesn't that mean that all teams in your league start the playoffs with their #1 SP on the mound even though he may have just pitched the last game of the season 2 days ago to clinch a playoff berth?

I would not want OOTP to reset fatigue for me. Unless you are in a one game playoff, as the OP was, you should have a day off before the first game of your playoff series. This dayoff will take care of position player fatigue but will leave pitchers with some fatigue, as it should.

If I have to win on the last day of the season or go home so throw my best SP or go through my bullpen's best or even dip into my starting rotation to get that "must" win I shouldn't be starting my playoff series with a fresh staff.

As to the original post, yes I think though a one game playoff is part of the regular season, OOTP should recognize that the one game playoff is a unique "regular" season game and act accordingly.
I can't see this has being that difficult to implement and it would fix the issue properly.

Get it done Markus for OOTP15 please.
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Just to clarify...it wasn't a game 163, it was the new wild card one game play in. Either way, the best players should play.
Well I totally missed that somehow. I must have quick skimmed your original post and then saw thehef's response with the phrase "one-game playoff" and took it as a tie breaker 163rd game. So now I'm wondering why there isn't a dayoff before starting the wildcard play-in game?

With this being the first year IRL that MLB used the wildcard one game play in and since my Cubs were not ever in the playoff picture I can't remember, was there a dayoff before the wildcard game?
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Well I totally missed that somehow. I must have quick skimmed your original post and then saw thehef's response with the phrase "one-game playoff" and took it as a tie breaker 163rd game. So now I'm wondering why there isn't a dayoff before starting the wildcard play-in game?

With this being the first year IRL that MLB used the wildcard one game play in and since my Cubs were not ever in the playoff picture I can't remember, was there a dayoff before the wildcard game?
American lg. No. National lg. Yes. Regular season ended on 9/29 and American lg. wildcard started 9/30 National lg.10/1.

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American lg. No. National lg. Yes. Regular season ended on 9/29 and American lg. wildcard started 9/30 National lg.10/1.
I'm pretty sure Texas and Tampa Bay played a game 163 to see who would get into the 1 game wildcard though, correct? That would be the reason for the no off day. I'm pretty sure MLB has to schedule an off day in between the "final" day of the regular season (game 162 day) and the 1 game wild card playoff specifically for potential game 163's.
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Please DO NOT reset fatigue before the play-offs by default. That just makes no sense.
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American lg. No. National lg. Yes. Regular season ended on 9/29 and American lg. wildcard started 9/30 National lg.10/1.
2013 was an odd case, though, and it was highly documented. Because they rushed the new wild card format into play after the 2013 regular season schedules had been announced, they were forced to add the wild card games with only two off days scheduled in the American League. It was widely talked about in the spring that if there were multiple ties for division titles or wild card spots (or rained out regular season games that needed to be played), it could cause serious scheduling or travel issues for teams.

As it turned out, Texas and Tampa played the tiebreaker game for a wild card spot on Sept. 30, then there was a off day, followed by Tampa playing Cleveland on Oct. 2. The fear was a 3-way tie for the second wild-card spot that could require a team to play three games in three days in three different cities. Or a division tie that didn't guarantee the second-place team a wild card spot could've created a lot of chaos.

I believe there's a little more time between the end of the regular season and the first wild card game this year, but I could be wrong.
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:06 PM   #12
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It seems to me that OOTP needs a "must-win game" AI setting that would kick in for these type of situations (game 7 of the World Series, game 163 etc) when you must have your best players playing and not resting, even if they're tired.
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It's possible that playoff byes were added last minute to OOTP13 due to the introduction of the wild card game, but one-game series have been a part of OOTP for years. The game shouldn't be resting ANY starters in the deciding game of a playoff series, even if it's a 1-game series.

Since none of you seem to remember the results of the wild card games so far:

2012 AL: Baltimore 5, Texas 1
(Teams had same records so they would have played a 1GP under the old format as well.)

2012 NL: St. Louis 6, Atlanta 3
(infield fly game)

2013 AL: Tampa Bay 4, Cleveland 0
(TB and TEX tied for second wild card and played a 1GP on Monday. Wild card game was already scheduled for Wednesday, so it did not need to be moved.)

2013 NL: Cincinnati 2, Pittsburgh 6
(only win by home team in the WCG)
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