Out: RPI In:NET

Cobra Mgr · 08-22-2018, 02:40 PM

The NCAA is going to use a new metric in judging trams for the tourney. RPI, gone. Giving higher weight to the last 10? Gone. I hope this metric starts forcing teams like dook & 'cuse to play credible teams on the road OOC.

What I don't like is that it caps the margin of victory @10. A team can dominate another for 35 minutes & then give up a bunch of meaningless garbage points to narrow the margin to under 20. Or a game can be tight til the last minute spreads the final from one possession to double digits. An 11pt "tighter than it looked" result shouldn't get the same weight as a "not even that close" 18 pt final.

pilight · 08-22-2018, 04:31 PM

They're still going to use RPI for the women's tournament

Cobra Mgr · 11-26-2018, 10:08 PM

#1 in Men's Basketball is...................

Ohio State?????

I'm not going to be too quick to judge these rankings.

1. Rankings in November are pointless.
2. These are starting from square one with no preconceived biases. Which I think is a plus. UNC, dook, Kansas, Kentucky etc. shouldn't be getting bonuses for reputations if you are going to come up with computer formulas that are neutral. Otherwise, they are still affected by human opinion and not by the action on the court.
3. The object is to get it "right" at the end. These aren't supposed to figure out who had the best season now. But in March, when everyone completes their year.

So let's see what we get in the spring. I will say it appears my thoughts on margin of victory are on point.

Leo_The_Lip · 11-27-2018, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilight

They're still going to use RPI for the women's tournament

And continue to use smaller balls, too.

Airdrop01 · 11-30-2018, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

#1 in Men's Basketball is...................

Ohio State?????

I'm not going to be too quick to judge these rankings.

1. Rankings in November are pointless.
2. These are starting from square one with no preconceived biases. Which I think is a plus. UNC, dook, Kansas, Kentucky etc. shouldn't be getting bonuses for reputations if you are going to come up with computer formulas that are neutral. Otherwise, they are still affected by human opinion and not by the action on the court.

Yeah, Michigan State and Tennessee road wins. Pointless Preconceived bias.

Cobra Mgr · 01-24-2019, 06:33 PM

Latest rankings. These fall more in line with what you'd expect. Interesting seeing Wofford @ 26, between AP ranked Auburn & NCSt. The NET says Houston & Nevada basically should switch positions.

11-26-2018, 10:08 PM	#3
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 6,374	#1 in Men's Basketball is................... Ohio State????? I'm not going to be too quick to judge these rankings. 1. Rankings in November are pointless. 2. These are starting from square one with no preconceived biases. Which I think is a plus. UNC, dook, Kansas, Kentucky etc. shouldn't be getting bonuses for reputations if you are going to come up with computer formulas that are neutral. Otherwise, they are still affected by human opinion and not by the action on the court. 3. The object is to get it "right" at the end. These aren't supposed to figure out who had the best season now. But in March, when everyone completes their year. So let's see what we get in the spring. I will say it appears my thoughts on margin of victory are on point. __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016 Last edited by Cobra Mgr; 11-26-2018 at 10:11 PM.

01-24-2019, 06:33 PM	#6
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 6,374	Latest rankings. These fall more in line with what you'd expect. Interesting seeing Wofford @ 26, between AP ranked Auburn & NCSt. The NET says Houston & Nevada basically should switch positions. __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016

08-22-2018, 02:40 PM	#1
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 6,374	Out: RPI In:NET The NCAA is going to use a new metric in judging trams for the tourney. RPI, gone. Giving higher weight to the last 10? Gone. I hope this metric starts forcing teams like dook & 'cuse to play credible teams on the road OOC. What I don't like is that it caps the margin of victory @10. A team can dominate another for 35 minutes & then give up a bunch of meaningless garbage points to narrow the margin to under 20. Or a game can be tight til the last minute spreads the final from one possession to double digits. An 11pt "tighter than it looked" result shouldn't get the same weight as a "not even that close" 18 pt final. __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016

08-22-2018, 04:31 PM	#2
pilight All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Action is Posts: 1,776	They're still going to use RPI for the women's tournament