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Old 12-28-2012, 11:26 AM   #61
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Ok, we added a new option to the league rules: "foreigner limit for teams outside league nation".
I love to hear that, thank you! It's a lot better and it makes LEV playable (Thanks to Slovaks that they have their own KHL team :-) ). It's not so good for Donbass, Barys and Minsk though since they will still have more then 5 (usually about 8 I think) foreigners. But it's a lot better for them too.

Is there any chance it will be modelled more precisely in future versions?
Anyway thank you a lot again!
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:58 AM   #62
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I love to hear that, thank you! It's a lot better and it makes LEV playable (Thanks to Slovaks that they have their own KHL team :-) ). It's not so good for Donbass, Barys and Minsk though since they will still have more then 5 (usually about 8 I think) foreigners. But it's a lot better for them too.
Talgat Zhailauov is the only actual Kazakh on Barys anyways
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:01 PM   #63
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Do they play pre-season games against other leagues in the KHL and do they have an All-Star game?
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:01 PM   #64
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Do they play pre-season games against other leagues in the KHL and do they have an All-Star game?
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:03 PM   #65
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It's great to see the developers listening to the future players, buyers and users. Should make for an even greater game than I could have imagined
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:36 PM   #66
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After the NHL and KHL,what's the next strongest league?
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:41 PM   #67
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After the NHL and KHL,what's the next strongest league?
Arguably the AHL and Swedish Eliteserien. Probably the SM-Liiga just behind those two.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:51 PM   #68
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Arguably the AHL and Swedish Eliteserien. Probably the SM-Liiga just behind those two.
I wouldn't consider the KHL to be a superior league than the AHL. There are no facts that prove the KHL being higher quality then the AHL. It is arguable, but i'd say that they are both around the same level. But that does seem to be changing slowly as more north american players who play great in the AHL are playing in Russia. Wouldn't that be fun seeing the top 3 teams and the worst 3 teams play each other in a tournament. Would be cool to do that in this game eventually.

I would agree too that the SEL would definately be after those three with SM-Liiga following them. Then i'd say Czech league.
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:36 PM   #69
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You are all forgetting the Swiss league! That's more likely after the SEL or even on par with it! Remember the Swiss beat the NHL for the Victoria cup!
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You are all forgetting the Swiss league! That's more likely after the SEL or even on par with it! Remember the Swiss beat the NHL for the Victoria cup!
I didn't forget the swiss league. It's certainly a growing league and getting better and attracting more players, especially with this lockout. But I wouldn't rank it as a top 6 league in the world. I'd say it's better quality then the DEL as well as the EIHL.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:40 AM   #71
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More franchises just announced:
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:08 AM   #72
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Arguably the AHL and Swedish Eliteserien. Probably the SM-Liiga just behind those two.
Just wondering if the NHL will be classified as Major League while the others will be graded accordingly. I would imagine AHL would be Triple A and ECHL would be Double A.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:18 AM   #73
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Just wondering if the NHL will be classified as Major League while the others will be graded accordingly. I would imagine AHL would be Triple A and ECHL would be Double A.
Is there really something like AAA and AA in hockey?
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:36 AM   #74
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Is there really something like AAA and AA in hockey?
While most leagues do not always put it into their name, it has always been used to explain different levels to new hockey fans or people that are interested.

With that said, the ECHL was actually branding itself as the "Premier AA Hockey League" in an attempt to take on the Central Hockey League and validate itself as being the only "true" AA league.

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Old 12-29-2012, 10:54 AM   #75
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Is there really something like AAA and AA in hockey?
Nope - you have your farm teams such as AHL or ECHL affiliates, or you may have players on loan to other leagues. AAA, AA, etc are unique to baseball but it is an easy term to reference when talking about minors. However I would not ever class them as AAA, AA, etc. It just doesn't make sense in hockey because their development system is different than baseball.
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Will there be farms for KHL teams in the first version? They have them in VHL or junior teams in MHL but that isn't all. LEV Praha has something like farm team in the first Czech minor league team called HC Stadion Litoměřice. For example LEV's Martin Škoula now plays there. Will there be such teams even if their leagues are not playable?

Does it make a difference whether a player doesn't play matches or is sent to farm for the player's development and condition?
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10 years ago we had the International Hockey League which was as close as it got to the NHL. Some teams(Chicago Wolves,Detroit Vipers) probably could have competed in the NHL. The IHL got too big and because of small attendance in some cities,it couldn't survive. It was a step above the AHL at the time.
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1. Kontinental Hockey League - Russia
2. SM-liiga - Finland
3. Extraliga - Czech Republic
4. Elitserien - Sweden
5. Extraliga - Slovakia
6. Nationalliga A - Switzerland
7. Deutsche Eishockey-Liga - Germany
8. Belarusian Vysshaya Liga - Belarus
9. Latvijas hokeja liga - Lativa
10. AL-Bank Ligaen - Denmark
11. Erste Bank Eishockey Liga - Austria
12. Kazakhstani Championship - Kazkhstan
13. GET-ligaen - Norway
14. Ligue Magnus - France
15. Slohokej Liga - Slovenia
16. Serie A - Italy
17. OB I. Bajnokság - Hungary
18. Polska Liga Hokejowa - Poland
19. Eredivisie - Netherlands
20. Vyscha Liha - Ukraine
21. Elite Ice Hockey League - Great Britain
22. Liga Nationala de hochei - Romania

Was the IIHF League Rankings in 09-10
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I wouldn't consider the KHL to be a superior league than the AHL. There are no facts that prove the KHL being higher quality then the AHL. It is arguable, but i'd say that they are both around the same level. But that does seem to be changing slowly as more north american players who play great in the AHL are playing in Russia. Wouldn't that be fun seeing the top 3 teams and the worst 3 teams play each other in a tournament. Would be cool to do that in this game eventually.

I would agree too that the SEL would definately be after those three with SM-Liiga following them. Then i'd say Czech league.
I agree - the AHL is around the same quality as the KHL. That's what I meant.

The NLA, DEL and Czech Extraliga probably fall just under the SM-Liiga in my view (but judging the differences is so subjective and arguably fluctuates every year or so).

The UK EIHL is well below those leagues. I'd place it with Norway, Denmark, Italy and France. The British players aren't as strong as Norwegians, Danes, etc, but when you factor in the imports each team has (ignoring the NHL lock-out players), the EIHL is more-or-less the same level IMO. That's not to say the top British players are that bad - Team GB has been doing very well over the past couple of years - but we really lack any real depth (a lot British players in the EIHL simply fill out team rosters due to the import/foreigner limits).

Regarding the A/AA/AAA thing, I think the Canadian juniors uses some form of system like this. I think the US equivalent is Tier 1 (USHL), Tier 2 (NAHL) and Tier 3 (NA3HL, etc).
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FOR CANADA HOCKEY: Triple A, Double A and Single A are really only used in Canadian Minor Hockey....Midget AAA, AA and A teams and the divisions below that. Although there is Junior B and in Ontario Junior C.

Really...the AAA, AA and A are not used at the Junior level at all, and to my knowledge never have been. The tier 1 and tier 2 designations have also basically disappeared. The CHL teams USED to be referred to as Tier 1 Junior, and the BCHL, AJHL, SJHL etc were Tier 2.

These Tier 1 and Tier 2 terms are only really used verbally now by the older generations which includes me.

USA uses AAA AA A for minor hockey as well. They have U18AAA, U18AA and for each level below that. Their junior programs have basically dropped the Tier 1 and Tier 2 as well. Now they are just known as their league names. The national development program runs with U18 and U16 teams etc.
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