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Murray, meanwhile, was a great arm and terrific pocket presence. As Russell Wilson has shown, QBs that are athletic enough to move out of the pocket but keep their eyes downfield can have a ton of success, and Murray has shown that that can absolutely be his ceiling. I'm not willing to go to bat for Murray though. Only 1 year.of starting experience, and he faced a ton of 3-man rushes in college because of his playstyle. The thing that gives me the most pause about him is that, while he weighed in at around 205 at both the combine and his pro day, he didn't run at either, leading me to believe he chunked up to have an NFL weight but wouldn't be playing at that weight, so he's at risk of getting his head taken off. To live up to the Russell Wilson comparisons, he's gonna have to be like Wilson and stay in incredible shape to offset his smaller stature. Also, you can't forget that this is ultimately media hype. The Cardinals' coach happened to say that he would take Murray first overall if he could when he was coaching at Texas Tech. Cardinals GM Steve Keim didn't vouch for Rosen in the media, but doing so would drive down the value of the draft pick if they're looking to move down. |
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I understand that, a lot of people that are against Kyler are using the Alabama game against him (never mind that Alabama would probably go 7-9 in the NFL with their year-in, year-out roster). But taken as a whole, he has shown traits that other QBs (basically just Russell Wilson) have used to become massively successful football players. I follow ProFootballFocus heavily, and they always say, if you're just watching one game, or a couple games, or anything but every snap, you're limiting yourself. They're extremely high on Murray (not as high as they were on Baker Mayfield, but a bit higher than they were on Darnold). I certainly don't fall in that camp (although I haven't seen a single Kyler Murray throw), and I think his actions through the combine and his pro day have been dodgy, but I trust the media I follow enough to know Kyler at least isn't Tim Tebow. |
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He was scared to start. The whole teams was. But as the game went on, he got comfortable & the Sooners were moving the ball.
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Less than 36 hours away from my favorite sporting event of the year, the NFL draft!
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04-24-2019, 11:47 AM | #69 |
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I agree. Saw the same thing you saw. But the NFL is not college and he's not going to have the luxury of getting comfortable against players that will be working desk jobs. I still say the dude is not an NFL quarterback let alone worthy of being drafted in the first round.
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Is there a betting line that Gruden does a Ditka and trades everything for Murray?
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I know d line was supposed to be the star position for this draft. Somehow, I'm still shocked that this many of the front have been picked this early in the 1st round. So far, 11 of 19 are getting to the QB. No RB's, WR's or DB's.
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I'm surprised D.K. Metcalf made it this far. I'm guessing the Cards will pick him up in the 2nd.
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I heard the knock on him was that he is better in shorts than in pads. Great running a straight line. Mediocre making a cut.
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His 3-Cone time was slower than Tom Brady's when Brady was in the combine, so his change of direction skills are really subpar. Pro Football Focus likens him athletically to Martavis Bryant.
The first round was surprisingly devoid of drama. Clellin Ferrell to Oakland was definitely crazy, and then you have the Giants reaching for Jones, and Jawaan Taylor and Drew Lock still being on the board. But there was only 1 trade in the top 20 picks, that was pretty crazy. I think the Cardinals pick Taylor or Metcalf to start the second round off, unless they keep stockpiling QBs and go Lock. |
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The Giants pick at #6 made no sense. I liked their later pick of DT Dexter Lawrence. They needed to pick DT Ed Oliver at #6, and along with Lawrence they got it going. They could have picked up QB Jones or Lock with their 2nd round pick. As a Cowboys fan I am very happy that they didn't go that route.
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Yeah, I'm not sold on Murray, either, at least not as #1. I think his upside is Russell Wilson-level, but the downside is Tebow - at best. But hey, if it doesn't work out, there's always baseball to fall back on.
Still waiting for the Colts to pick, as the Do-Nothing Offseason continues apace.
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NFL first round picks are the most overvalued commodity in all of sports and it's not close.
The Giants could have gotten Rosen with a 2nd round pick (possibly even less than that) and instead decide to burn a top 10 pick on Daniel Jones. This makes absolutely no sense. There is no way that any scouts in that organization have a higher grade on Jones than they did Rosen last year, but the Giants went for the new shiny QB anyway. NFL GMs do not have realistic expectations of what their hit rate is going to be with their 1st round picks. The way they are valued, they must be assuming that every 1st rounder becomes a perennial pro bowler |
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