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12-27-2019, 09:44 AM | #41 |
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Interesting concept, Joe. I like it.
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12-27-2019, 09:51 AM | #42 | |
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12-27-2019, 11:00 AM | #43 | |
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Though I don’t like the extra TOTD cards either, it is actually driving the prices down for other competitive cards. Lee Smith was once over 300k and is now around 110k. There are many other examples of great cards at great prices. This is allowing more competitive balance. My two experimental teams have even made it to the Perfect World Series. It’s all about making the playoffs. From there it is a crapshoot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Yes. Thank you. Technically this is the league above Perfect! Should receive a better trophy. Is there a thread of champions for this Invitational? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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12-29-2019, 07:53 AM | #45 | |
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F2P teams are effective in FIFA Ultimate Team, with the same proviso as in Perfect Team, you spend the time trading, in fact it's far easier trading and making bank in FIFA than in PT due to the amount of people playing and the market being extremely volatile but predictable. the main difference is that Perfect Team doesn't require the level of skill that FIFA demands in order to get the most from your team, if you have the BIS players in PT you will win championships unless you make ridiculous strategies. Collections are almost a straight up copy of SBCs from FIFA. OOTPs PT business model is just as predatory, if not more so
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12-29-2019, 09:37 AM | #46 |
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Collections are far worse than SBCs. SBCs can actually be fun since there is a puzzle to figure out the best way to meet the requirements. Collections are just "hope you already have a freehan otherwise lol at you"
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12-29-2019, 05:54 PM | #47 |
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The PT devteam, even at the chagrin of the broader community at times, has repeatedly stated their devotion to making sure that FTP teams have access to the same level of card quality as paying players. One recent example is the reward stratification in tournaments; it's basically level across the different rarity/expense tiers, because the devs explicitly stated that they didn't want to reserve the best rewards for only the paying players.
If trading is really the primary method of creating a successful FTP team in Madden, FIFA, etc., then that is a byproduct of those games' economies, not a feature. "My market is exploitable by the most knowledgeable/devoted" is not a design feature of those Ultimate Team economies, it's a byproduct of the large userbase. That PT has explicitly allowed for the success of FTP strategies in a game where the only skill is in teambuilding and perhaps model-making to predict the stats of players, especially in a world where the userbase is small and therefore relatively knowledgeable compared to other games, is an impressive achievement. In any case, I'm only around because the PT time grind is really manageable, even for someone who wants to be a really successful FTP player. I've tried getting into Madden, FIFA, Diamond Dynasty, etc., and the grind was just not worth it and the card quality is outclassed quickly unless you really keep at it. Anyone who's really examined the design choices and economies of both of these games can easily see that PT comes out way ahead when you break down the FTP-centric choices the developers have made. In any case, I won't make any more posts on this matter because I suspect that people who want to hate on the FTP PT economy aren't going to change their perspective if they haven't already. I'd just ask those people to come up with solutions, rather than just identify what they think are problems, if they're really trying to be constructive and not just coming up with excuses about why they haven't had more personal success.
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12-30-2019, 09:26 AM | #48 |
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One thing about FIFA UT though is that its not a sim. So even if you have a stacked team of Renaldos you paid for, you still have to be worth a darn at the controls.
I would argue there's far less difference in OOTP as though strategy has an impact, its impact is still somewhat random and easily overcome by the high end cards a F2P will never have before the next edition. On another note, why not have a money spent criteria? Those who spent over $X on PP get bumped to a different pyramid. F2P and minimal purchases less than $X have their own pyramid. Same AH for everyone. Same achievements.
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12-30-2019, 01:41 PM | #49 |
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because they want people to spend money
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12-30-2019, 03:27 PM | #51 |
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That's literally been chewed through 30 times in the last year and a half. Don't make it start again....
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12-30-2019, 04:43 PM | #52 |
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They probably feel like they need to specialize within Perfect Team a little. In the simple sense that it is a game made up of different cards, they do.
But that the cards could just be different players from different years plus lives with different looks (and the exact same ratings as OOTP mode) is true...people would still participate. BUT... the special cards and a few altered ratings and a few other changes might be expected. It's a separate creation from the standard game. First things that come to minds are b's....boring & business. It might be boring without some wild cards....and the whole thing is very much a business.
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Those Mediocre Teams, etc.
I don't know the details of all teams but I will say as far as the mediocre teams that supposedly populate perfect...
Winning 100+ games in Perfect is only easy or seems easy maybe? after you've done it...and are defeating teams that win an average or below average amount of games. I still remember being whacked around the 1st season at that level finishing 54-108 with a very good team if you weren't comparing it to the very best teams. If you really look at the rosters that are being defeated, they are just about all vastly superior to even the best MLB teams of all-time. A lot of different things in most cases go into creating these rosters...in the end sometimes it seems like just a few clicks flips tricks and obvious decisions. But these decisions only seem obvious after you've figured a thing or a 1,000+ things out. So as far as I can tell the rosters at the Perfect Level are all Genius when I take a step back. Congratulations on winning any titles especially Perfects League titles but if you're bored, it's probably a combination of things, not the "mediocre" teams' faults or the game structure.
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We ran the whale league the last two weeks. In week 1, all 3 of my teams won their divisions. In week 2, two of my teams did very poorly and the worst one had a record of 70-92. None of my three whale teams made the playoffs. I am organizing the whale league again for the week of Jan 21. Only two teams that were in last week are not going forward for the next version--they wanted to see how they stacked up against the best of the best and decided they were not at that level. NO ONE WHINED about how unfair and unbalanced. You are a moron Orcin and are going on permanent mute. |
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12-31-2019, 11:48 AM | #55 |
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While you are muting folks, mute me too. Thank you.
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12-31-2019, 01:45 PM | #56 |
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This has been a good discussion, let’s not start calling names and get the thing shut down. Happy New Year!
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12-31-2019, 03:14 PM | #57 |
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Bad form
Name calling serves no interests.
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12-31-2019, 06:34 PM | #58 | |
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For the love of God, add a level above perfect
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I agree. I find that I added much just to be able to compete. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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01-01-2020, 01:12 PM | #59 |
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Problem; Too Many Teams At Perfect Level.
1) Look up ANY Perfect League 2) Remove all team playing under .500. That leaves you with about 15 teams. 3) Move the "Under .500" teams to Diamond. 4) Reassemble the Perfect Leagues with the Plus .500 teams Result will be stiffer competition and less of a spread between best and worst team. 5) Look up ANY Diamond League 6) Rinse and Repeat all the way down to Iron. Granted, this is over-simplified - but the point still remains there are too many teams in Perfect Level that don't belong there. |
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Please discuss without the personal name-calling. Some of you reporting posts are engaging in general name-calling as well. Please police your own writing before hitting the 'post' button or we will have to. Thanks
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