BZ 3352: Player morale should not apply during ST

RchW · 06-18-2009, 05:16 PM

This is a small but annoying issue in my online and solo leagues. I want to play prospects in ST and some of my starters are pissed because they are not starting. Surely the morale system can be set to "don't worry be happy" mode for 4 weeks in ST and during the playoffs.

Please fix this.

captaincarl · 06-18-2009, 05:57 PM

During spring training games, in real life, the starters start and play for about one turn through the lineup in order for them to get their work in at the plate and in the field and then the prospects go into the game. This goes on for about the first week or two of spring training. The starter's playing time then increases as the weeks go by in order to get them into shape for playing a full game by the time spring training ends.

I suggest doing the same thing.

Also, the starting pitcher usually pitches the first few innings, max of 3, and then after a couple of starts the number of innings increases as well.

RchW · 06-18-2009, 06:38 PM

I know that. Unfortunately the AI in OOTP doesn't and it will leave some prospects with 5 AB after 3 weeks of ST. I usually let my starters start against LHP and use prospects in the starting lineup against RHP. On a good note the AI does well with the pitching staff, I rarely have to force pitchers unless they are really bad.

Vopat · 06-19-2009, 03:54 AM

In "real life" there are split squads that allow the prospects and starters to get playing time. Not having that option is a real disadvantage in OOTP.

RchW · 06-19-2009, 06:06 AM

Or we should have ST and game schedules in minor leagues.

captaincarl · 06-19-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RchW

I know that. Unfortunately the AI in OOTP doesn't and it will leave some prospects with 5 AB after 3 weeks of ST. I usually let my starters start against LHP and use prospects in the starting lineup against RHP. On a good note the AI does well with the pitching staff, I rarely have to force pitchers unless they are really bad.

Here lies the problem. The starters are complaining because they are not in the starting lineup against RHP. I don't know if there is anyway around it to get them to stop complaining other than to put them in the starting lineup against RHP.

Are you playing the games or simming them?

RchW · 06-19-2009, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaincarl

Here lies the problem. The starters are complaining because they are not in the starting lineup against RHP. I don't know if there is anyway around it to get them to stop complaining other than to put them in the starting lineup against RHP.

Are you playing the games or simming them?

I know what the problem is.

I'm complaining because morale should only count when the games count. One could also argue that morale should be off or turned down in the playoffs. We all hear commentators talking about pitcher A who wants to start but will take it for the team in the playoffs.

Raidergoo · 06-28-2009, 10:20 PM

Bug 3352 Submitted

This is more of a feature type request, but I sent it to Markus after copy/pasting your post into Bugzilla.

06-18-2009, 05:16 PM	#1
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	BZ 3352: Player morale should not apply during ST This is a small but annoying issue in my online and solo leagues. I want to play prospects in ST and some of my starters are pissed because they are not starting. Surely the morale system can be set to "don't worry be happy" mode for 4 weeks in ST and during the playoffs. Please fix this. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

06-18-2009, 05:57 PM	#2
captaincarl Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Barrington, RI Posts: 4,362	During spring training games, in real life, the starters start and play for about one turn through the lineup in order for them to get their work in at the plate and in the field and then the prospects go into the game. This goes on for about the first week or two of spring training. The starter's playing time then increases as the weeks go by in order to get them into shape for playing a full game by the time spring training ends. I suggest doing the same thing. Also, the starting pitcher usually pitches the first few innings, max of 3, and then after a couple of starts the number of innings increases as well. Last edited by captaincarl; 06-18-2009 at 06:12 PM.

06-18-2009, 06:38 PM	#3
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	I know that. Unfortunately the AI in OOTP doesn't and it will leave some prospects with 5 AB after 3 weeks of ST. I usually let my starters start against LHP and use prospects in the starting lineup against RHP. On a good note the AI does well with the pitching staff, I rarely have to force pitchers unless they are really bad. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

06-19-2009, 06:06 AM	#5
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	Or we should have ST and game schedules in minor leagues. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

06-19-2009, 03:54 AM	#4
Vopat Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 50	In "real life" there are split squads that allow the prospects and starters to get playing time. Not having that option is a real disadvantage in OOTP.

06-28-2009, 10:20 PM	#8
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,004	Bug 3352 Submitted This is more of a feature type request, but I sent it to Markus after copy/pasting your post into Bugzilla.