Contract Negotiations

Nickphillies · 10-23-2019, 10:36 AM

Anyone having issues with contract negotiations? I tried offering Rod Brind'Amour a 4 year deal(he wanted two) with more money. He rejected so I met his demand and offer the two year deal but then I got another message saying he rejected the 4 year deal and negotiations have been cut off

JeffR · 10-23-2019, 12:49 PM

That sounds like the qualifying offer problem - if the player really hated the initial offer, he may have broken off negotiations completely at that point. But the game still allows you to submit another offer to qualify him so he's doesn't become a UFA when his contract expires, which will get auto-rejected by the player if he's ended negotiations. But when that happens, because the submitted QO works around the normal restrictions on ended negotiations, it doesn't register with the player and
he responds to as if he's still talking about the offer that caused him to break them off.

It's a little messy to resolve, and I think we need to change the mechanics a bit to do it - probably something like a response option to the "I'm not talking anymore" response from the player that lets you enter a QO right then instead of doing it by allowing another "offer" to be submitted via the regular interface, which is confusing.

avsfan96 · 10-23-2019, 12:52 PM

I learned that right away. The first time I offered a player more years it was rejected and then I couldn't even get back to them. I found you just accept the year length they want and try to negotiate the dollar value down a bit. If you really want the player just accept his terms.Then wait and see if anyone offers him more. Not much back and forth with contract negotiations. Could be improved for sure. Like to see more interaction between agent/player and GM. Hopefully an area to be updated sometime in the future.

Nickphillies · 10-27-2019, 08:34 PM

My thing is it keeps saying I'm offering the four year deal when I meet his demands or try to negotiate anything(I've done 1yr/$900k, 2yr/$900k and I keep getting the same notification)

NYM Fan 31 · 03-16-2020, 02:43 PM

Has this been resolved? I have the same issue, they keep rejecting the initial offer I made even though I keep increasing it and it is now $10M more than the initial offer. The total value of the contract hasn't changed in the rejected offer news story.

JeffR · 03-17-2020, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NYM Fan 31

Has this been resolved? I have the same issue, they keep rejecting the initial offer I made even though I keep increasing it and it is now $10M more than the initial offer. The total value of the contract hasn't changed in the rejected offer news story.

If he's broken off negotiations, he won't accept any offer for awhile, but you're able to continue making offers to allow you to make sure you get a valid qualifying offer in to prevent a RFA from becoming a UFA when the contract expires (which, given the amounts you've offered, has happened here.) Unless you're very close to July 1, he'll likely start considering offers again once you get close to the contract expiring, or, worst case, after he becomes an RFA. At that point he'll either sign an offer sheet somewhere you can match, or he'll become willing to negotiate again.

10-23-2019, 10:36 AM	#1
Nickphillies All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 560	Contract Negotiations Anyone having issues with contract negotiations? I tried offering Rod Brind'Amour a 4 year deal(he wanted two) with more money. He rejected so I met his demand and offer the two year deal but then I got another message saying he rejected the 4 year deal and negotiations have been cut off __________________ FHM Beta Tester

10-27-2019, 08:34 PM	#4
Nickphillies All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 560	My thing is it keeps saying I'm offering the four year deal when I meet his demands or try to negotiate anything(I've done 1yr/$900k, 2yr/$900k and I keep getting the same notification) Attached Images __________________ FHM Beta Tester Last edited by Nickphillies; 10-27-2019 at 08:35 PM.

03-16-2020, 02:43 PM	#5
NYM Fan 31 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Freeport, NY Posts: 345	Has this been resolved? I have the same issue, they keep rejecting the initial offer I made even though I keep increasing it and it is now $10M more than the initial offer. The total value of the contract hasn't changed in the rejected offer news story. __________________ "Pelfrey has yet to allow a hit with one out in the 5th. The 1-2 pitch.. lined into left field, that's a base hit for Jones." - Gary Cohen

10-23-2019, 12:49 PM	#2
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 16,623	That sounds like the qualifying offer problem - if the player really hated the initial offer, he may have broken off negotiations completely at that point. But the game still allows you to submit another offer to qualify him so he's doesn't become a UFA when his contract expires, which will get auto-rejected by the player if he's ended negotiations. But when that happens, because the submitted QO works around the normal restrictions on ended negotiations, it doesn't register with the player and he responds to as if he's still talking about the offer that caused him to break them off. It's a little messy to resolve, and I think we need to change the mechanics a bit to do it - probably something like a response option to the "I'm not talking anymore" response from the player that lets you enter a QO right then instead of doing it by allowing another "offer" to be submitted via the regular interface, which is confusing.

10-23-2019, 12:52 PM	#3
avsfan96 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 38	I learned that right away. The first time I offered a player more years it was rejected and then I couldn't even get back to them. I found you just accept the year length they want and try to negotiate the dollar value down a bit. If you really want the player just accept his terms.Then wait and see if anyone offers him more. Not much back and forth with contract negotiations. Could be improved for sure. Like to see more interaction between agent/player and GM. Hopefully an area to be updated sometime in the future.