Question before I buy...

Molten · 04-12-2012, 10:46 AM

I'm new to the game, but very excited about the idea of joining the community. Am I able to install this on my desktop and laptop? I travel a fair amount and bring my laptop, but when I am at home I only use my desktop. If it is possible, is there any way to keep the same game on each?

If I can't do this, I'll just have to keep with iOOTP 12 for travel but would love something with a touch more depth if possible.

Cooleyvol · 04-12-2012, 10:49 AM

You get two licenses with your purchase.

Molten · 04-12-2012, 10:52 AM

Perfect, so I can install it on two computers.

Is there any way to sync the two computers so I can maintain the same game or will it be two different games?

TribeFanInNC · 04-12-2012, 10:55 AM

You can play the same game on both, but you have to copy the game files back and forth (using a flash drive or such). Depending on the size of your league, the files can be a burden to copy. Sometimes they are 100s of MB, to give you a scale.

But the short answer is yes, you can play the same league on both.

eriqjaffe · 04-12-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Molten

Perfect, so I can install it on two computers.

Is there any way to sync the two computers so I can maintain the same game or will it be two different games?

OOTP allows for a non-default "save game" location, so you could use an external hard drive (or thumb drive, although performance would suffer, as there is a lot of disk read/write activity) to store a league and then move it back and forth.

Personally, I find it easier to just zip up the league folder and move it back and forth on a thumb drive.

Molten · 04-12-2012, 10:58 AM

Awesome. I'll be sure to employ these tactics. Thanks for the quick, quality responses. Looks like a fantastic community.

Cooleyvol · 04-12-2012, 11:05 AM

If you have webspace, you could upload the league zip file and then d/l it on the other computer.

Otherwise, you could move that zipped file onto a thumb drive.

jonpfl · 04-12-2012, 11:10 AM

I have used a thumb drive to transfer files back and forth between computers and it works great (just takes awhile to copy it all onto the thumb drive)

One issue I had is my work computer had a different user name (first initial followed by last name) so I had to create a soft link (not sure what you call it in windows) with that same name to relate to my home PC username

If you need more info about this, let me know and I can see what I did when I get home

Thx
jonpfl

snepp · 04-12-2012, 11:15 AM

I suggested this elsewhere, but using a backup utility that allows for differential copies can make copying league files between computers easier and less time consuming. No reason to copy thousands of files every time when there may be only a fraction that have changed.

You may even be able to accomplish the same process by using the in-game backup and restore functions. (but don't quote me on that)

cephasjames · 04-12-2012, 11:39 AM

It'd be nice if we could save and load from the cloud.

spleen1015 · 04-12-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

It'd be nice if we could save and load from the cloud.

Who is going to provide the cloud?

VARoadstter · 04-12-2012, 11:51 AM

You could use dropbox to give you access to your files everywhere.

I do.

Jabez54 · 04-12-2012, 12:03 PM

While this is all good and awesome to do with both types of PCs ...

Suggestion: why not have two different types of Assn ... whichever, you use the most, have that as the most active - while the other as the lesser of the two ... currently, I like having 4 different types of Assn running currently ... two in Fictional and two in Historical of different Eras ... this way, whatever the mood I'm in, I played in one ... I'll never get bored ... and That's Baseball ....

Orcin · 04-12-2012, 12:03 PM

I play a fictional association on my (Windows Vista) home desktop and on my (Windows 7) laptop when I travel or just want to play on my sofa. It takes 20 minutes or more to copy 35,000+ files to a USB flash drive when I want to go from one computer to the other, because every file is copied when using the drag and drop in Windows Explorer. I researched alternatives and came up with SyncToy, a Microsoft product. It is free.

Download Details - Microsoft Download Center - SyncToy 2.1

This tool is excellent. It is very easy to configure and there is a wizard to assist. I "echo" my saved games folder between the computer and the flash drive, and it only copies the files that have changed. Then I "echo" the same folders going from the flash drive to the receiving computer. (Echo is one of the options in the program - it is a one-way sync.) I typically have less than 1,000 changed files and it takes only a minute or two. It has saved me a lot of time.

oman19 · 04-12-2012, 12:20 PM

Orcin..You are my new best friend if I figure out how to work this.

Orcin · 04-12-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oman19

Orcin..You are my new best friend if I figure out how to work this.

It's pretty easy. I started by copying my entire saved_games folder to my flash drive using drag and drop, so that they were already mirrored. Then I set up the C: to E: (flash drive) sync using the Echo option. I loaded my league into OOTP and then closed the game again, so that just the basic files saved (something to test but not too many). I ran the sync operation with SyncToy and you can see the dozen or so files being replaced in the report at the end. It takes a little longer than you think to run because it is actually checking every file, but it should complete in a few minutes.

EDIT: I think it is best to choose the ECHO option because I want an exact mirror, when files are renamed or deleted I want that to be done on the other machine too.

Once you get that one set up, just do the same thing in the other direction on your second computer. Then you have to make another pair of sync folders to go in reverse order on each computer. Once you have these four pairs set up, the only thing to do carefully is to make sure you choose the right pair (or you will copy the old files over the new files like I did once).

The longest syncs are after January 1 and pre-season where every player gets a scouting update and/or pic change. Those can take several minutes with a large league.

jbmagic · 04-12-2012, 02:21 PM

DropBox is very good for synching for the cloud. Just put your league file in there and have the game point to that. This way you can play it on your desktop and continue the same league on your laptop and vice versa.

jonpfl · 04-12-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by snepp

I suggested this elsewhere, but using a backup utility that allows for differential copies can make copying league files between computers easier and less time consuming. No reason to copy thousands of files every time when there may be only a fraction that have changed.

You may even be able to accomplish the same process by using the in-game backup and restore functions. (but don't quote me on that)

Can you tell me what backup utility you use?

Thx
jonpfl

jonpfl · 04-12-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

DropBox is very good for synching for the cloud. Just put your league file in there and have the game point to that. This way you can play it on your desktop and continue the same league on your laptop and vice versa.

Is that slow?

Can I take an existing league and copy it to DropBox and modify the path ingame?

Thx,
jonpfl

snepp · 04-12-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jonpfl

Can you tell me what backup utility you use?

Orcin's suggestion in this thread would work just fine.

I use Puresync for most of my backup/syncing needs, but it's unnecessarily complicated for a task like this.

04-12-2012, 10:46 AM	#1
Molten Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 3	Question before I buy... I'm new to the game, but very excited about the idea of joining the community. Am I able to install this on my desktop and laptop? I travel a fair amount and bring my laptop, but when I am at home I only use my desktop. If it is possible, is there any way to keep the same game on each? If I can't do this, I'll just have to keep with iOOTP 12 for travel but would love something with a touch more depth if possible.

04-12-2012, 10:55 AM	#4
TribeFanInNC Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,019	You can play the same game on both, but you have to copy the game files back and forth (using a flash drive or such). Depending on the size of your league, the files can be a burden to copy. Sometimes they are 100s of MB, to give you a scale. But the short answer is yes, you can play the same league on both. Last edited by TribeFanInNC; 04-12-2012 at 10:56 AM.

04-12-2012, 11:15 AM	#9
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,366	I suggested this elsewhere, but using a backup utility that allows for differential copies can make copying league files between computers easier and less time consuming. No reason to copy thousands of files every time when there may be only a fraction that have changed. You may even be able to accomplish the same process by using the in-game backup and restore functions. (but don't quote me on that) Last edited by snepp; 04-12-2012 at 11:19 AM.

04-12-2012, 11:39 AM	#10
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04-12-2012, 12:03 PM	#13
Jabez54 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Former Southie Posts: 2,068	While this is all good and awesome to do with both types of PCs ... Suggestion: why not have two different types of Assn ... whichever, you use the most, have that as the most active - while the other as the lesser of the two ... currently, I like having 4 different types of Assn running currently ... two in Fictional and two in Historical of different Eras ... this way, whatever the mood I'm in, I played in one ... I'll never get bored ... and That's Baseball .... __________________ Always a pleasure to stop in and visit the neighborhood!!

04-12-2012, 10:49 AM	#2
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	You get two licenses with your purchase.

04-12-2012, 10:52 AM	#3
Molten Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 3	Perfect, so I can install it on two computers. Is there any way to sync the two computers so I can maintain the same game or will it be two different games?

04-12-2012, 10:58 AM	#6
Molten Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 3	Awesome. I'll be sure to employ these tactics. Thanks for the quick, quality responses. Looks like a fantastic community.

04-12-2012, 11:05 AM	#7
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	If you have webspace, you could upload the league zip file and then d/l it on the other computer. Otherwise, you could move that zipped file onto a thumb drive.

04-12-2012, 11:10 AM	#8
jonpfl Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 200	I have used a thumb drive to transfer files back and forth between computers and it works great (just takes awhile to copy it all onto the thumb drive) One issue I had is my work computer had a different user name (first initial followed by last name) so I had to create a soft link (not sure what you call it in windows) with that same name to relate to my home PC username If you need more info about this, let me know and I can see what I did when I get home Thx jonpfl

04-12-2012, 11:51 AM	#12
VARoadstter Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 211	You could use dropbox to give you access to your files everywhere. I do.

04-12-2012, 12:03 PM	#14
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	I play a fictional association on my (Windows Vista) home desktop and on my (Windows 7) laptop when I travel or just want to play on my sofa. It takes 20 minutes or more to copy 35,000+ files to a USB flash drive when I want to go from one computer to the other, because every file is copied when using the drag and drop in Windows Explorer. I researched alternatives and came up with SyncToy, a Microsoft product. It is free. Download Details - Microsoft Download Center - SyncToy 2.1 This tool is excellent. It is very easy to configure and there is a wizard to assist. I "echo" my saved games folder between the computer and the flash drive, and it only copies the files that have changed. Then I "echo" the same folders going from the flash drive to the receiving computer. (Echo is one of the options in the program - it is a one-way sync.) I typically have less than 1,000 changed files and it takes only a minute or two. It has saved me a lot of time.

04-12-2012, 12:20 PM	#15
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04-12-2012, 02:21 PM	#17
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,419	DropBox is very good for synching for the cloud. Just put your league file in there and have the game point to that. This way you can play it on your desktop and continue the same league on your laptop and vice versa.