the last thing ootp needs

waltwa · 12-03-2015, 04:08 PM

I am a player of ootp from the beginning. it has been and continues to be the best online game in my opinion.

I play online as a fulltime hobby but there are down times and then I play solo.
solo is good but what it needs to be great is visible gameplay. I used to play mogul and actionpc. both have adequate visuals but are both terrible games. it just befuddles me that a game as bad as baseball mogul can be fun to play out a game and watch the batter swing, ball flight and runner advancement. I have to believe as advanced as ootp is that the visuals can't be introduced.

hopefully 2016 will see that great step taken.

tcblcommish · 12-03-2015, 06:41 PM

I agree, it's the last thing that ootp needs. There is debates about this all time. We'll not all the time but a lot

Bluenoser · 12-03-2015, 06:59 PM

Yes, OOTP needs it, but it's far from the "last" thing OOTP needs

waltwa · 12-03-2015, 07:57 PM

well ootp may need a few things but visuals would be #1 on my list

curt · 12-03-2015, 08:58 PM

I agree about visuals. It's a great game, but some visuals would make it by far the absolute best!!

RANGER11JP · 12-03-2015, 09:59 PM

So I HEAR the game needs something. After extensive study of the history of baseball itself, I HEAR that there was this instrument called RADIO, that had some talented people describing the action on the field so well that those listening could envision, with some help of something called imagination, what was happening as if they were there!

Some of these BROADCASTERS are actually in the BASEBALL HALL OF FAME for what they have done for the game. You can look it up.

Believe it or not, this practice is still in existence today, from what I HEAR.
It's even on this new thing called the internet, or so I've HEARD!

Please be aware that no eardrums were harmed in creating this response. My humble opinion is that the OOTP game might set itself apart from all the twitch and flick games which are trying to reproduce the actual visual spectacle of a baseball game by utilizing the tool that has served the game so well for so long. It will not be easy, but I think it might be an option and I have a couple of ideas if anyone is interested. Or, as with so many of my posts, this will be the last thing ever written here. (Notice I didn't say HEAR!)

Bowtie · 12-04-2015, 04:49 AM

For a long time now I've wanted to see visuals added to OOTP.. I used to play Front Office Manager (the PC game that featured A's GM Billy Beane). That game would have been a lot better if they could have used the real players.

Other than the things I've requested in my Suggestions thread, this is the lat thing OOTP needs.

rpriske · 12-04-2015, 08:49 AM

Visuals are LITERALLY the last thing OOTP needs.

So, once OOTP has added everything else possible to make this a perfect game, then it can add useless eye-candy.

pjh5165 · 12-04-2015, 09:04 AM

Love how this thread's title can be used to support either side of this argument. A+ job OP

redranger · 12-04-2015, 09:07 AM

I remember a game called Baseball for Windows that radio announced the play by play from Ernie Harwell. For its time it did an amazing job of this. It truly was like listening to a broadcast as you played out your game. Something like this with the depth of OOTP would be incredible adding to the immersion

ThatSeventiesGuy · 12-04-2015, 12:08 PM

More 3D B.S. is the last thing this game needs. Just more crap I won't use to make my computer run slower and take up more memory. OOTP is a sim. If you want graphics beyond facegen stuff, go play MLB The Show or something.

jpeters1734 · 12-04-2015, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANGER11JP

So I HEAR the game needs something. After extensive study of the history of baseball itself, I HEAR that there was this instrument called RADIO, that had some talented people describing the action on the field so well that those listening could envision, with some help of something called imagination, what was happening as if they were there!

Some of these BROADCASTERS are actually in the BASEBALL HALL OF FAME for what they have done for the game. You can look it up.

Believe it or not, this practice is still in existence today, from what I HEAR.
It's even on this new thing called the internet, or so I've HEARD!

Please be aware that no eardrums were harmed in creating this response. My humble opinion is that the OOTP game might set itself apart from all the twitch and flick games which are trying to reproduce the actual visual spectacle of a baseball game by utilizing the tool that has served the game so well for so long. It will not be easy, but I think it might be an option and I have a couple of ideas if anyone is interested. Or, as with so many of my posts, this will be the last thing ever written here. (Notice I didn't say HEAR!)

I would actually prefer to hear a realistic sounding broadcast then watching poorly pixelated players running around.

Questdog · 12-04-2015, 02:35 PM

It is pointless to argue this, because Markus wants a rudimentary graphical representation of the on-field action in OOTP and it will happen eventually.

But those that think that this will come at the expense of improvements in other areas are mistaken because Markus is out-sourcing most of that and so it will not take his precious time away from dealing with the meat of the simulation.

jpeters1734 · 12-04-2015, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Questdog

It is pointless to argue this, because Markus wants a rudimentary graphical representation of the on-field action in OOTP and it will happen eventually.

But those that think that this will come at the expense of improvements in other areas are mistaken because Markus is out-sourcing most of that and so it will not take his precious time away from dealing with the meat of the simulation.

I definitely not saying that I would not welcome it. I would just hope that the sound would be improved first. Baseball has always been a great audio game

ThatSeventiesGuy · 12-04-2015, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANGER11JP

So I HEAR the game needs something. After extensive study of the history of baseball itself, I HEAR that there was this instrument called RADIO, that had some talented people describing the action on the field so well that those listening could envision, with some help of something called imagination, what was happening as if they were there!

Some of these BROADCASTERS are actually in the BASEBALL HALL OF FAME for what they have done for the game. You can look it up.

Believe it or not, this practice is still in existence today, from what I HEAR.
It's even on this new thing called the internet, or so I've HEARD!

Please be aware that no eardrums were harmed in creating this response. My humble opinion is that the OOTP game might set itself apart from all the twitch and flick games which are trying to reproduce the actual visual spectacle of a baseball game by utilizing the tool that has served the game so well for so long. It will not be easy, but I think it might be an option and I have a couple of ideas if anyone is interested. Or, as with so many of my posts, this will be the last thing ever written here. (Notice I didn't say HEAR!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

I would actually prefer to hear a realistic sounding broadcast then watching poorly pixelated players running around.

Hear, hear.

jpeters1734 · 12-04-2015, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatSeventiesGuy

Hear, hear.

I see what you did there!

elfroggo · 12-05-2015, 01:30 AM

Am I the only one who likes the presentation of OOTP? I think the text boxes and the play-by-play and the graphic of the field is absolutely fantastic. I've always been a fan of simple things and making things look clean but not over-the-top and I think that Markus does a fantastic job at that.

RANGER11JP · 12-05-2015, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elfroggo

Am I the only one who likes the presentation of OOTP? I think the text boxes and the play-by-play and the graphic of the field is absolutely fantastic. I've always been a fan of simple things and making things look clean but not over-the-top and I think that Markus does a fantastic job at that.

elfroggo,

I agree with you on the fantastic look of the game. The sound bar was set quite high back in the 90's by a game that pales in comparison overall to OOTP, but had great audio with Ernie Harwell doing the PBP. You could set both teams to be managed by the computer and let it run and it was almost like listening to a live broadcast. Every game was in HDPI. (High Definition Personal Imagination)!!!

JP

DustinthePOWERHOUSE · 12-09-2015, 10:10 AM

I disagree, but only if visuals slow down the game or slow down my experience. I'm not technically sound enough to know whether it will or not...but my goal is for the game to be as fast and smooth as possible and if we add graphics or "visuals" wouldn't that potentially slow it down?

jmm8356 · 12-09-2015, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redranger

I remember a game called Baseball for Windows that radio announced the play by play from Ernie Harwell. For its time it did an amazing job of this. It truly was like listening to a broadcast as you played out your game. Something like this with the depth of OOTP would be incredible adding to the immersion

And it was twenty years ago!!!... "We have the technology, we can rebuild him, better than he was before..."

12-03-2015, 09:59 PM	#6
RANGER11JP All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,352	So I HEAR the game needs something. After extensive study of the history of baseball itself, I HEAR that there was this instrument called RADIO, that had some talented people describing the action on the field so well that those listening could envision, with some help of something called imagination, what was happening as if they were there! Some of these BROADCASTERS are actually in the BASEBALL HALL OF FAME for what they have done for the game. You can look it up. Believe it or not, this practice is still in existence today, from what I HEAR. It's even on this new thing called the internet, or so I've HEARD! Please be aware that no eardrums were harmed in creating this response. My humble opinion is that the OOTP game might set itself apart from all the twitch and flick games which are trying to reproduce the actual visual spectacle of a baseball game by utilizing the tool that has served the game so well for so long. It will not be easy, but I think it might be an option and I have a couple of ideas if anyone is interested. Or, as with so many of my posts, this will be the last thing ever written here. (Notice I didn't say HEAR!) __________________ BASEBALL, HOCKEY AND BOXING FAN

12-04-2015, 04:49 AM	#7
Bowtie All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,316	For a long time now I've wanted to see visuals added to OOTP.. I used to play Front Office Manager (the PC game that featured A's GM Billy Beane). That game would have been a lot better if they could have used the real players. Other than the things I've requested in my Suggestions thread, this is the lat thing OOTP needs. __________________

12-04-2015, 08:49 AM	#8
rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 23,986 Blog Entries: 1	Visuals are LITERALLY the last thing OOTP needs. So, once OOTP has added everything else possible to make this a perfect game, then it can add useless eye-candy. __________________ Rusty Priske Poet, Canadian, Baseball Fan ````````````````````````````````````````

12-04-2015, 12:08 PM	#11
ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,421	More 3D B.S. is the last thing this game needs. Just more crap I won't use to make my computer run slower and take up more memory. OOTP is a sim. If you want graphics beyond facegen stuff, go play MLB The Show or something. __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1

12-05-2015, 01:30 AM	#17
elfroggo Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: America. Posts: 21	Am I the only one who likes the presentation of OOTP? I think the text boxes and the play-by-play and the graphic of the field is absolutely fantastic. I've always been a fan of simple things and making things look clean but not over-the-top and I think that Markus does a fantastic job at that. __________________ Go Mariners! At least we aren't the Cubs......

12-03-2015, 04:08 PM	#1
waltwa All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 902	the last thing ootp needs I am a player of ootp from the beginning. it has been and continues to be the best online game in my opinion. I play online as a fulltime hobby but there are down times and then I play solo. solo is good but what it needs to be great is visible gameplay. I used to play mogul and actionpc. both have adequate visuals but are both terrible games. it just befuddles me that a game as bad as baseball mogul can be fun to play out a game and watch the batter swing, ball flight and runner advancement. I have to believe as advanced as ootp is that the visuals can't be introduced. hopefully 2016 will see that great step taken.

12-03-2015, 06:41 PM	#2
tcblcommish Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,435	I agree, it's the last thing that ootp needs. There is debates about this all time. We'll not all the time but a lot

12-03-2015, 06:59 PM	#3
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 13,682	Yes, OOTP needs it, but it's far from the "last" thing OOTP needs

12-03-2015, 07:57 PM	#4
waltwa All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 902	well ootp may need a few things but visuals would be #1 on my list

12-03-2015, 08:58 PM	#5
curt Major Leagues Join Date: May 2013 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 456	I agree about visuals. It's a great game, but some visuals would make it by far the absolute best!!

12-04-2015, 09:04 AM	#9
pjh5165 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 410	Love how this thread's title can be used to support either side of this argument. A+ job OP

12-04-2015, 09:07 AM	#10
redranger All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 536	I remember a game called Baseball for Windows that radio announced the play by play from Ernie Harwell. For its time it did an amazing job of this. It truly was like listening to a broadcast as you played out your game. Something like this with the depth of OOTP would be incredible adding to the immersion

12-04-2015, 02:35 PM	#13
Questdog Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases...... Posts: 16,142	It is pointless to argue this, because Markus wants a rudimentary graphical representation of the on-field action in OOTP and it will happen eventually. But those that think that this will come at the expense of improvements in other areas are mistaken because Markus is out-sourcing most of that and so it will not take his precious time away from dealing with the meat of the simulation.

12-09-2015, 10:10 AM	#19
DustinthePOWERHOUSE All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 871	I disagree, but only if visuals slow down the game or slow down my experience. I'm not technically sound enough to know whether it will or not...but my goal is for the game to be as fast and smooth as possible and if we add graphics or "visuals" wouldn't that potentially slow it down? __________________ Shootin' at the walls of heartache, BANG BANG, I am THE WARRIOR! "It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am"- Ali Wladimir Klitschko will DESTROY you.