AI does not use bullpen evenly

paulW2003 · 07-13-2021, 01:49 PM

I am playing a fictional league, I sim the entire season and then manage the playoffs myself. The problem is, the bullpen is used very unevenly. So I get to the playoffs, there's some guys I have no clue if they are good or not.
Here's an example of a recent season.. Notice that Jaime Davis only pitched 2.2 innings ALL YEAR. (a 4.5 star reliever, the editor projects him as a 2.0 WAR reliever, so he's good)
Meanwhile reliever Kalman had over 100 innings, despite having a more limited role.. Any ideas to fix this? I would think that since Davis was a 7th and later guy AND a middle reliever, he'd get a ton of work.

This is OOTP 21, if that matters.

paulW2003 · 07-13-2021, 02:41 PM

I forgot to say, Injuries turned off, so that's not the reason.

Matt Arnold · 07-13-2021, 02:44 PM

Multiple-stopper setups are not really supported, at least beyond maybe a couple guys. So when you get to a "stopper" situation, generally speaking, we will choose the first rested guy, which in this case would be mostly Davalos or Kalman it seems like.

You could set a couple of those guys to be, say, setup guys instead, which should still tend to pitch them in late leverage situations, and that would likely help the AI out in trying to find the right guy for the right situation.

Rain King · 07-13-2021, 02:45 PM

That's kind of a weird bullpen setup. I wonder if the AI isn't designed to handle multiple Stoppers.

I've not seen this issue myself with more conventional bullpen roles.

lencombs · 07-14-2021, 01:34 AM

Check your pitching staff innings around the All-Star break and select "use more often" on the drop down arrow under usage options for guys you want to see get more innings, or less innings.

Argonaut · 07-14-2021, 01:36 AM

2 Stoppers works great, especially in earlier eras. I would put the rest as Middle Relief, with Long Relief secondary if they have Stamina, or Setup secondary if they're decent quality.

Like Matt says, 4 Stoppers is too many and is obviously not working as you intend.

paulW2003 · 07-15-2021, 10:23 AM

Thanks everyone for the tips. I appreciate it!

07-13-2021, 01:49 PM	#1
paulW2003 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 5	AI does not use bullpen evenly I am playing a fictional league, I sim the entire season and then manage the playoffs myself. The problem is, the bullpen is used very unevenly. So I get to the playoffs, there's some guys I have no clue if they are good or not. Here's an example of a recent season.. Notice that Jaime Davis only pitched 2.2 innings ALL YEAR. (a 4.5 star reliever, the editor projects him as a 2.0 WAR reliever, so he's good) Meanwhile reliever Kalman had over 100 innings, despite having a more limited role.. Any ideas to fix this? I would think that since Davis was a 7th and later guy AND a middle reliever, he'd get a ton of work. This is OOTP 21, if that matters. Attached Images

07-14-2021, 01:34 AM	#5
lencombs All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Eureka, Ca Posts: 533	Check your pitching staff innings around the All-Star break and select "use more often" on the drop down arrow under usage options for guys you want to see get more innings, or less innings. Attached Images __________________ "A passion for statistics is the earmark of a literate people." - Paul Fisher "Baseball isn't statistics. Baseball is (Joe) DiMaggio rounding second." - Jimmy Cannon

07-14-2021, 01:36 AM	#6
Argonaut All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,085	2 Stoppers works great, especially in earlier eras. I would put the rest as Middle Relief, with Long Relief secondary if they have Stamina, or Setup secondary if they're decent quality. Like Matt says, 4 Stoppers is too many and is obviously not working as you intend. __________________ Texas Rangers Dynasty (Est. 1972) Hartford Whalers Dynasty: Brass Bonanza

07-13-2021, 02:41 PM	#2
paulW2003 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 5	I forgot to say, Injuries turned off, so that's not the reason.

07-13-2021, 02:44 PM	#3
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,156	Multiple-stopper setups are not really supported, at least beyond maybe a couple guys. So when you get to a "stopper" situation, generally speaking, we will choose the first rested guy, which in this case would be mostly Davalos or Kalman it seems like. You could set a couple of those guys to be, say, setup guys instead, which should still tend to pitch them in late leverage situations, and that would likely help the AI out in trying to find the right guy for the right situation.

07-13-2021, 02:45 PM	#4
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,112	That's kind of a weird bullpen setup. I wonder if the AI isn't designed to handle multiple Stoppers. I've not seen this issue myself with more conventional bullpen roles.

07-15-2021, 10:23 AM	#7
paulW2003 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 5	Thanks everyone for the tips. I appreciate it!