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02-06-2020, 11:39 AM | #1 |
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Idea.....I need pros & cons
This literally just sprung in my head so I haven't weighed the good & bad in my mind. But PocketsAintFull's comment in the MLB 2020 thread sparked this in my brain.
What would be the pros and cons of having a salary cap that did not include the salaries of players out of your minor league system? Or in the case of the NBA/NFL, players you drafted? You could spend how ever much you want on homegrown talent, but free agents are limited.
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Teams would hoard prospects more than they already do, and if you think teams exploit service time loopholes now...
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Fair point, too.
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I don't see that as a problem. Something I built and helped grow myself is more valuable to me.
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02-06-2020, 11:53 AM | #6 |
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What makes it more complex?
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Ties players to the team that drafted them. Gives the players less freedom
This is a "pro" to the fans and owners And a "con" to the players |
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Ties players to the team that drafted them. Gives the players less freedom
This is a "pro" to the fans and owners And a "con" to the players |
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I suppose I mean that there’s a lot more goes on in players’ pre-MLB careers, like trades. So how long would a player need to be in a team’s feeder system?
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Take the Chiefs. Mahomes is going to get his money. But that is probably going to mean some of his weapons are going to put the Chiefs over the cap if they keep them. KC may not want Sammy Watkins or Kelce to go elsewhere, they may want to give them their $ feeling they are worth it and earned it. But neither may have a choice. In my eye, something is wrong with that. The salary cap in that case means developing a bunch of stars is just going to benefit someone else. Another franchise that just throws money at the problem. There should be a way for a team to develop thru the draft & minors and get the full benefit from their hard work if they want to. The rules shouldn't see a team that builds a player from a prospect to a superstar and then "punish" them as if they did something wrong. That's the objective of the minors & draft.
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Do away with the draft and have players be free agents. Teams will then pay players what they think they are worth instead of paying them well below what everyone knows they are worth. Quote:
They punish the players, by keeping salaries low, way more than they punish the teams Quote:
The objectives here are the same; to lower costs for the owners. Players who are drafted have zero leverage to negotiate. |
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The problem is that you are providing incentive for teams to not put their best players on the field which is bad when you are an entertainment product and fans want to see the best players.
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How so?
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This would put a huge emphasis on the draft. No team is given an advantage. If you draft well you can build and maintain a good team. |
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Exploit ALWAYS is negative when its applied to treatment of people. ALWAYS. However, people are comfortable with exploitation of groups they don't like or who they consider undeserving of fair and equal treatment. Would that be what you're referring to when you say there's nothing wrong with it some of the time? |
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Sounds to me like you just don't want free agency. If you're drafted by a team then you're stuck with that team unless they release/trade you Am I somehow misinterpreting it? Also .... "The salary cap in that case means developing a bunch of stars is just going to benefit someone else", Watkins wasn't drafted by KC, so maybe you meant Hill? Last edited by ezpkns34; 02-07-2020 at 12:22 AM. |
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His last paragraph gives it away A team getting a player for a fraction of their value for six years is getting "punished" if they choose not to pay them their market value in free agency |
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What I'm proposing doesn't mean the end of FA. The salary cap can still be there to keep the Steinbrenners from buying titles and dominating the FA landscape. But, in theory, it will allow give franchises incentive to keep developed talent without fear it will restrict them from filling other spots on the team thru FA. Or feel they have to other solid players go to retain a potential superstar.
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