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Old 05-30-2019, 09:48 PM   #21
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hey, I don't not never never advocate nothing. just explaining how it is supposed to work.

if you start maris in 1962 he will arrive with 61 home runs in 1961 unless you turn off history.
if you start him in 1958 he will only ever have however many home runs he hit in your sim for 1961, it don't change after the fact.
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Old 05-30-2019, 09:50 PM   #22
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:01 PM   #23
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hey, I don't not never never advocate nothing. just explaining how it is supposed to work.

if you start maris in 1962 he will arrive with 61 home runs in 1961 unless you turn off history.
if you start him in 1958 he will only ever have however many home runs he hit in your sim for 1961, it don't change after the fact.
That is what I'm saying in regard to Kraft. As you can see in the screenshot. He has 3 at bats in 1914 for the Boston Brave. Those at bats happened in real life. They did not happen in my sim.

I started in 1912. Kraft never played in my sim. Then in 1919 when he appears on the 1919 Fort Worth Panthers, he has all his real stats.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:45 PM   #24
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and he has all his real minor league stats prior to 1918 as well.
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I just finished krafting 1912-1918 and he only got what he earned in the sim but I had him playing in unaffiliated minor leagues I made up not sitting on a reserve list.

I still think how one chooses to play is the root cause but you never know you know.
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What is the point of having a sim if the game is just going to randomly assign fake doings to certain players? You know how much it would suck to play out every single game from 1912 to 1919 only to have the game assign stats to Kraft that never actually happened. If we have to create independent leagues for guys like Kraft to play in, OOTP should say so, or come with those league in place.
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What is the point of having a sim if the game is just going to randomly assign fake doings to certain players? You know how much it would suck to play out every single game from 1912 to 1919 only to have the game assign stats to Kraft that never actually happened. If we have to create independent leagues for guys like Kraft to play in, OOTP should say so, or come with those league in place
working on it. did not get it done enough to make it into ver 20 so 3 beta people are continuing to work on it over the summer.
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working on it. did not get it done enough to make it into ver 20 so 3 beta people are continuing to work on it over the summer.
Cool. Sounds like that would take care of the Kraft cheese issue. Still need to see if what Pirates is reporting is happening, as that's an even bigger issue. Looks like Pirates was attempting post some screen shots, but they didn't come through. Hopefully he will retry. If guys like Adams and Grimes are retiring and then returning with real stats it would crush a sim.
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Please let me know if these screenshots came through.
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Yes they came through. So, if I'm seeing this right. The second set of screenshots is what Adams looks like during 1914. No stats whatsoever. The first set show what happen when 1916 or 17 rolls around? He now has all his real career stats? Is that what I'm seeing?
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Yes they came through. So, if I'm seeing this right. The second set of screenshots is what Adams looks like during 1914. No stats whatsoever. The first set show what happen when 1916 or 17 rolls around? He now has all his real career stats? Is that what I'm seeing?
You are Correct, he has all his correct stats and is now on the Pirates.
Remember he also switches teams.

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yup, it is all good.

note that these are reserve rooster years.

I can't speak to that as I only use active rosters or active with real minor leagues or active with fake minor leagues. got no insight on reserve roster behaviors.
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You are Correct, he has all his correct stats and is now on the Pirates.
Remember he also switches teams.
Okay when did you start your sim? What year? Are you using real minors? I guess my question is, how many of those 113 wins shown on Babe Adams stat sheet, did he earn in your actual sim?

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Looking at this closer. It looks like this has something to do with Adams missing 1917 in real life. Pirates, I have a question. By chance you aren't erasing all history(stats) when you start your sim by any chance are you?
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Yes - Using Real Minors.
Babe never made it to the Majors. Pictures label next set, show his Sim Stats through 1914.
Then he comes back into the league as a Pirate with his actual REAL LIFE stats.
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Looking at this closer. It looks like this has something to do with Adams missing 1917 in real life. Pirates, I have a question. By chance you aren't erasing all history(stats) when you start your sim by any chance are you?
No, I never erase Prior history or any history at all.
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Lots of Players missed time from 1914-1918 because of WWI
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You need to keep bumping this until someone responds. This is a massive bug. OOTP could be the most accurate baseball sim on the market if it's allowed to simply insert "real stats" in place of "simulated stats." How can you look at the history of your sim if Adams shows stats that he didn't actually accumulate in your game. Adams will have 113 wins, when he should have zero.

I have another question, by chance are you using the players miss seasons according to history feature?
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I have another question, by chance are you using the players miss seasons according to history feature?[/QUOTE]

No, I Do not use Miss season.
My sims are set up to play as if Players did not miss any seasons or get injured as in real life.
I also do not use real life transactions.
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