Active Roster Size During Pre-Season

checkyoursixx · 10-19-2016, 09:56 PM

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but this should be corrected. We cannot properly have a training camp with an active roster size of 23.

This also brings up an issue of no players hitting waivers right before the season starts. This can also cause an issue if your team has too many players away at the World Cup (season 1). Will this be fixed before release?

Thank you.

On another note.. Charlie Lindgren (Mtl Farm team) has no ratings created. Zeroes across the board. Not sure if he was a late addition to the rosters or not, but he's arguably Montreal's best goaltending prospect atm.

JeffR · 10-20-2016, 01:47 AM

The lack of waivers is intended to compensate for the smaller offseason roster. You can move players up and down without having to waive them until the season begins.

I fixed Lindgren, he'll be better after the next data update (sometime next week.) Wouldn't put him ahead of Fucale as the best prospect, though.

jbaxter · 10-20-2016, 12:29 PM

I think you need to check the rules on sending younger prospects back to junior. Sergachev (Canadiens) and many others of the 2016 draft class have made their clubs and many will stay for just 9 games before being sent back. In Sergachev's case, the option is to send him to the AHL, which isn't an option.

jrexi · 10-20-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by checkyoursixx

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but this should be corrected. We cannot properly have a training camp with an active roster size of 23.

This also brings up an issue of no players hitting waivers right before the season starts. This can also cause an issue if your team has too many players away at the World Cup (season 1). Will this be fixed before release?

Thank you.

On another note.. Charlie Lindgren (Mtl Farm team) has no ratings created. Zeroes across the board. Not sure if he was a late addition to the rosters or not, but he's arguably Montreal's best goaltending prospect atm.

I agree with this. This was also an issue in FHM 2, it's just not realistic to have only 23 players on the roster during pre-season. I appreciate that you can send players up and down without the need to clear waivers, but it makes it very hard to try different lines and combinations during the pre-season by having to keep bringing players up and down.

deanwells1234 · 10-20-2016, 02:13 PM

The Problem I have is that any player with a No Movement clause cant be sent to the Minors. Meaning i cant send down guys who I know will play for my team and get to play my younger guys. This really does need to be addressed as it makes the preseason pretty much unimportant. I cant make a roster thats worth having cause my big guns almost always have No Movement Clauses.

JeffR · 10-20-2016, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jbaxter

I think you need to check the rules on sending younger prospects back to junior. Sergachev (Canadiens) and many others of the 2016 draft class have made their clubs and many will stay for just 9 games before being sent back. In Sergachev's case, the option is to send him to the AHL, which isn't an option.

Yeah, that definitely shouldn't be happening. It's supposed to be checking for CHL history and the NHL draft date to see if the player has to go back to junior, and everything appears to be set properly in the database, so that looks like a bug.

checkyoursixx · 10-20-2016, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

Yeah, that definitely shouldn't be happening. It's supposed to be checking for CHL history and the NHL draft date to see if the player has to go back to junior, and everything appears to be set properly in the database, so that looks like a bug.

Yep it is happening to me as well. My only options for Sergachev are NHL, AHL or ECHL.

Guzzernaut · 10-21-2016, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jrexi

I agree with this. This was also an issue in FHM 2, it's just not realistic to have only 23 players on the roster during pre-season. I appreciate that you can send players up and down without the need to clear waivers, but it makes it very hard to try different lines and combinations during the pre-season by having to keep bringing players up and down.

Yes. Moving players up and down for every game of the preseason is tedious, not fun, and not realistic.

mgom27 · 10-22-2016, 10:45 AM

What is need is Expand Roster Date then in Preseason would have more then 23 Guys including Tryout Guys.
Other thing needed is like the Amway Center has the right to host some preseason Games or Orlando Solar Bears-contract up with Lighting like 2020.

ajimithing · 10-22-2016, 07:24 PM

It does make pre-season waivers non existent and there are always many players changing teams through waivers right before the season starts.

But also, you should be able to offer PTO (Professional Tryout) and have those guys available in preseason.

Torgonius · 10-27-2016, 10:03 AM

The major drawback to this method is that players get unhappy when you send them down. Not an issue with the guys destined to be down there, but for the guys who don't need to play many pre-season games, but need to get out of the way, it's not fun seeing angry faces in their status.

Is there a way to turn off happiness in pre-season, or to reset it after pre-season ends, like part of waiver day?

Gauch33 · 01-10-2017, 09:01 PM

Yes I agree - this is a glaring issue. Can't have much fun sending guys up and down just to get some preseason games in. Needs to be addressed by expanding roster during preseason. I mentioned it in FHM 1 and FHM 2. Makes it so annoying and unrealistic.

10-19-2016, 09:56 PM	#1
checkyoursixx Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 282	Active Roster Size During Pre-Season Sorry if this has been mentioned, but this should be corrected. We cannot properly have a training camp with an active roster size of 23. This also brings up an issue of no players hitting waivers right before the season starts. This can also cause an issue if your team has too many players away at the World Cup (season 1). Will this be fixed before release? Thank you. On another note.. Charlie Lindgren (Mtl Farm team) has no ratings created. Zeroes across the board. Not sure if he was a late addition to the rosters or not, but he's arguably Montreal's best goaltending prospect atm.

10-20-2016, 12:29 PM	#3
jbaxter Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 102	Sending kids back to junior I think you need to check the rules on sending younger prospects back to junior. Sergachev (Canadiens) and many others of the 2016 draft class have made their clubs and many will stay for just 9 games before being sent back. In Sergachev's case, the option is to send him to the AHL, which isn't an option.

10-22-2016, 10:45 AM	#9
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,520	What is need is Expand Roster Date then in Preseason would have more then 23 Guys including Tryout Guys. Other thing needed is like the Amway Center has the right to host some preseason Games or Orlando Solar Bears-contract up with Lighting like 2020. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

10-20-2016, 01:47 AM	#2
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 16,623	The lack of waivers is intended to compensate for the smaller offseason roster. You can move players up and down without having to waive them until the season begins. I fixed Lindgren, he'll be better after the next data update (sometime next week.) Wouldn't put him ahead of Fucale as the best prospect, though.

10-20-2016, 02:13 PM	#5
deanwells1234 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan Posts: 200 Blog Entries: 1	The Problem I have is that any player with a No Movement clause cant be sent to the Minors. Meaning i cant send down guys who I know will play for my team and get to play my younger guys. This really does need to be addressed as it makes the preseason pretty much unimportant. I cant make a roster thats worth having cause my big guns almost always have No Movement Clauses.

10-22-2016, 07:24 PM	#10
ajimithing Minors (Single A) Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 56	It does make pre-season waivers non existent and there are always many players changing teams through waivers right before the season starts. But also, you should be able to offer PTO (Professional Tryout) and have those guys available in preseason.

10-27-2016, 10:03 AM	#11
Torgonius All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 826	The major drawback to this method is that players get unhappy when you send them down. Not an issue with the guys destined to be down there, but for the guys who don't need to play many pre-season games, but need to get out of the way, it's not fun seeing angry faces in their status. Is there a way to turn off happiness in pre-season, or to reset it after pre-season ends, like part of waiver day?

01-10-2017, 09:01 PM	#12
Gauch33 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 43	Yes I agree - this is a glaring issue. Can't have much fun sending guys up and down just to get some preseason games in. Needs to be addressed by expanding roster during preseason. I mentioned it in FHM 1 and FHM 2. Makes it so annoying and unrealistic.