Player not increasing defensive rating

stealofhome · 01-10-2019, 12:45 AM

I've waited a day to post this as I wasn't sure if I was just being impatient. I still may be, but I do believe this has taken longer than it should by now.

I put Fernando Tatis Jr. Future Legend at 3B and expect that he should max out at 67 total - 60 Range, 66 Error, 81 Arm, 56 TDP. I confirmed this using an OOTP test league and the editor. He has been stuck at a 54 rating at 3B for close to a month now. He has definitely been playing - 73 games at 3B, 208 total chances - but no increase in total 3B rating.

Izz · 01-10-2019, 01:19 AM

Does he throw with his left or right hand?

stealofhome · 01-10-2019, 05:56 AM

He is right handed and has increased his rating already but is stuck.

Lukas Berger · 01-10-2019, 05:58 AM

It seems that the last few bits of positional experience are the longest/hardest for guys to earn, at least in my experience.

So I suspect this is normal and you'll see him gain that last bit pretty soon. If it doesn't happen in like a full season, then post again and let us know so we can look into it further.

atabakin · 01-10-2019, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by stealofhome

I've waited a day to post this as I wasn't sure if I was just being impatient. I still may be, but I do believe this has taken longer than it should by now.

I put Fernando Tatis Jr. Future Legend at 3B and expect that he should max out at 67 total - 60 Range, 66 Error, 81 Arm, 56 TDP. I confirmed this using an OOTP test league and the editor. He has been stuck at a 54 rating at 3B for close to a month now. He has definitely been playing - 73 games at 3B, 208 total chances - but no increase in total 3B rating.

I believe a player will max out his defensive rating after about 180-200 games at the position, in my experience. The initial gain is pretty rapid in comparison to what happens over the last 130 games or so.

stealofhome · 01-10-2019, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by atabakin

I believe a player will max out his defensive rating after about 180-200 games at the position, in my experience. The initial gain is pretty rapid in comparison to what happens over the last 130 games or so.

He's up to 167 games total (only 73 this season) so I'll wait another couple months like Lukas told me to and see where he stands.

Matt Arnold · 01-10-2019, 12:31 PM

Players will gain the first bit of experience quite quickly, but then will be slow going after that. Some players will learn faster than others, too, and there is some randomness involved. Eventually he'll get there.

stealofhome · 01-13-2019, 01:37 AM

Update on this: Tatis increased his positional rating from 54 to 57 while playing in 147 games and with 394 total chances. Interestingly enough, after finally getting from 54 to 55, he got to 56 almost immediately. I still think there's something off here, since I believe his maximum is 67. This should be accomplished within 240 career games at a position I would think. I also see outfielders gaining positional ratings much more rapidly than infielders.

Matt Arnold · 01-13-2019, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stealofhome

Update on this: Tatis increased his positional rating from 54 to 57 while playing in 147 games and with 394 total chances. Interestingly enough, after finally getting from 54 to 55, he got to 56 almost immediately. I still think there's something off here, since I believe his maximum is 67. This should be accomplished within 240 career games at a position I would think. I also see outfielders gaining positional ratings much more rapidly than infielders.

The last few points that a player can gain are much slower than the first points. It could in theory take a whole season to get from 54 to the max of 67, and some players will be faster to gain that than others.

stealofhome · 01-13-2019, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

The last few points that a player can gain are much slower than the first points. It could in theory take a whole season to get from 54 to the max of 67, and some players will be faster to gain that than others.

Sure, but he just went from 54 to 57 in an entire season.

stealofhome · 01-20-2019, 09:37 AM

Okay checking in after another full season - still not maximized defensively. After 390 games, 3,462 innings, and 992 total chances - Fernando Tatis Jr. still needs some more experience. He is now at 60 for a 3B positional rating.

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stealofhome Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,282 Blog Entries: 1	Player not increasing defensive rating I've waited a day to post this as I wasn't sure if I was just being impatient. I still may be, but I do believe this has taken longer than it should by now. I put Fernando Tatis Jr. Future Legend at 3B and expect that he should max out at 67 total - 60 Range, 66 Error, 81 Arm, 56 TDP. I confirmed this using an OOTP test league and the editor. He has been stuck at a 54 rating at 3B for close to a month now. He has definitely been playing - 73 games at 3B, 208 total chances - but no increase in total 3B rating. __________________ OOTP Resources \| - \| Stealofhome's Fictional Feeder Leagues and MLB Extravaganza

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01-13-2019, 01:37 AM	#8
stealofhome Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,282 Blog Entries: 1	Update on this: Tatis increased his positional rating from 54 to 57 while playing in 147 games and with 394 total chances. Interestingly enough, after finally getting from 54 to 55, he got to 56 almost immediately. I still think there's something off here, since I believe his maximum is 67. This should be accomplished within 240 career games at a position I would think. I also see outfielders gaining positional ratings much more rapidly than infielders. __________________ OOTP Resources \| - \| Stealofhome's Fictional Feeder Leagues and MLB Extravaganza

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Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,138	Players will gain the first bit of experience quite quickly, but then will be slow going after that. Some players will learn faster than others, too, and there is some randomness involved. Eventually he'll get there.

01-20-2019, 09:37 AM	#11
stealofhome Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,282 Blog Entries: 1	Okay checking in after another full season - still not maximized defensively. After 390 games, 3,462 innings, and 992 total chances - Fernando Tatis Jr. still needs some more experience. He is now at 60 for a 3B positional rating. Attached Images __________________ OOTP Resources \| - \| Stealofhome's Fictional Feeder Leagues and MLB Extravaganza Last edited by stealofhome; 01-20-2019 at 09:39 AM.