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Old 06-25-2017, 08:22 AM   #21
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do most of you guys manually pick the award winners?

I let the CPU do it, do they make bad picks?
I always ask the AI 1st then override if necessary. Last season my AL winner by the AI was a SP who was on a 112 or so wining team, while I gave the MVP to a 3B on a team with the 2nd best record. The team would not have made the WC without the 3B and I believe that has to be a factor. While the team minus that SP would have made the playoffs.
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:21 PM   #22
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Guys who picked 2B Ishii are looking at that WAR number which.I.don't.trust. Sorry.

Lower WAR or not, I go with this guy:
RF Juan Gonzalez: .324/.360/.723, 69 HR, 150/130, 7.4 WAR (-15 ZR)

Why? Because of this: 150/130. If I am reading it correctly, that's 280 runs that he batted in and scored. 280 times that he was involved with scoring a run, which is the essence of this game. That's a lot more than any other guy up there. (The pitcher does not win an MVP award, ever. Sorry again.)

I trust that I have settled this matter to everyone's satisfaction. This thread may now be closed. ()
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:16 PM   #23
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first and foremost it's completely arbitrary, my only debate here is the assumption that the only way someone could pick ishii is because they are looking at 1 thing

i didn't look at WAR... i hate WAR

you can find me whining about it often in the forums, lol. i don't even trust teh defensive stuff.. so that -15 isn't even part of it either. but, lf vs 2b sure is important.

i like OPS+ better, but i would never use it as a primary nor sole reason to pick between a 2+ players. However, in this case it would be very intuitive translation for this deviation in perceptions and what that league is. 125 ops is 25% above baseline in results - same drawbacks as WAR, certainly not 100% accurate.

that "280" may not be as extraordinary as it seems... this league is quite a bit elevated relative to real-world numbers, even steroid years, too! ishii was 28 short of that over 162g.. plus played a more important position that can easily overcome that difference.

if runs are significantly higher, that -28 runs+rbi is less of a difference than if you saw that same deviation in the real mlb (for perception translation)

the ops+ would help alot with translating, even if you don't want ot use in in the choice. WAR can too, just not as intuitive.. i don't know what 'average' war is offhand, lol. but i know 100 ops+ all the time without a thought.
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Old 06-28-2017, 10:34 AM   #24
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I GM Rockies and also did pretty well offensively Lol. 360 HR better than you but you know this is COORS FIELD.
How did you get Kershaw!?
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RF Juan Gonzalez: .324/.360/.723, 69 HR, 150/130, 7.4 WAR (-15 ZR)


is my pick for MVP

I agree
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Must be the old school coach in me and I am shocked that this hasn't been asked yet

- whose team did the best? Winning is why we play and I think all 3 of these guys are deserving, but I would pick based upon which team won the most.

- also a very big part for me - is defense. Defense is the most underrated part of baseball because we still don't really have accurate and objective stats for it and so it always gets overlooked. Because of course OOTP is a simulation and real defense is something that needs to be witnessed everyday you can kind of only go by ratings and assume that defense is making the difference.

- one last coach note - half of what coaches think of as defense is never noticed or captured in statistics. backups, cutoffs, tags, cutoff throws - all stuff that is never tallied makes a huge difference in real defense and simply isnt measured by the stats and certainly not by the game. but it wins and loses games in real life.


1B Tony Angel: .323/.395/.722, 54 HR, 122/114, 8.6 WAR
2B Masamune Ishii: .330/.405/.653, 46 HR, 130/122, 9 WAR
RF Juan Gonzalez: .324/.360/.723, 69 HR, 150/130, 7.4 WAR (-15 ZR)
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Because I can, and it's usually a fun debate, please pick who should be the MVP in my league. The top contenders that I see would be:

SP Dylan Mills: 20-2, 2.56 ERA, 221 IP, 257K, 7.1 WAR (2 K away from triple crown)
C Juan Gonzalez: .291/.369/.607, 36 HR, 81 RBI/73 R, 6.8 WAR
1B Tony Angel: .323/.395/.722, 54 HR, 122/114, 8.6 WAR
2B Masamune Ishii: .330/.405/.653, 46 HR, 130/122, 9 WAR
SS Kyung-Suk Tokko: .254/.354/.557, 47 HR, 122/101, 6.4 WAR (-10 ZR in 135G)
3B Yong-u Park: .295/.401/.509, 22 HR, 63/110, 5.8 WAR (21-5 SB)
RF Juan Gonzalez: .324/.360/.723, 69 HR, 150/130, 7.4 WAR (-15 ZR)

So, which guy deserves it most?

Bonus facts: they're all on my team (Tokko was a deadline pickup) Not included:
2B/SS Dusty Bowles: .309/.350/.642, 22 HR, 3.1 WAR in 264 PA
CF Oliver Martinez: 2.9 WAR in 359 PA (+15 ZR, hurt other half of year)
SS Juan Martinez: 2.8 WAR in 366 PA (+14 ZR)
LF Eric Perry: 2.4 WAR
DH Eric Evans: 39 HR, 2 WAR

So yeah, my team did pretty well offensively 1027 runs, 358 HR. Although I did knock the HR modifier down halfway through the year because it was getting ridiculous. Although even with all that, still just 107 wins - surprisingly, I lost 3 times by a 1-0 score, which feels like a bug with the above lineup.
I thought you said they were all on your team. Where is Mills?
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