1901-1999 replay

[Rahhja]

Originally Posted by scott1964

Larry Walker
Walter Johnson
Roger Hornsby
Pete Alexander
Ted Williams

Larry Walker played for Montreal from 1989 till his retirement in 1998. He was pretty solid player averaging 13 homers, 80 RBI and 20 steals a season till a torn groin muscle (ouch) and a fractured cheekbone ended his career in 1995. He played a total of 140 games over the next 3 years.

Ended up with 96 homers, 485 RBI and a .282 average.

The Big Train was one of my favorite players though looking at this history he wouldnt have been. He started well, winning 72 games his first 4 years. His best year was 1908 when he went 23-15 with a 1.57 ERA. Then hit by nagging injuries over the next 3 years destroyed his ratings. He spent alot of time in the minors starting in 1911 untill his retirement in 1920. He ended up with a 90 and 99 record and a 2.82 ERA.

Rajah may have been the most dominating player ever. He hit .300 or better in 21 of his 24 major league seasons (all for the Cardinals.) He hit .407 with 30 homers and 164 RBI in 1922. He won 9 MVP awards...9! He brought 2 world championships to the Cardinals. He is the alltime hits leader with 4928 and he also is career leader in 5 other catagories; AB's, Runs, Total Bases, Singles, and Triples. He also stole almost 500 bases.
Awesome, just awesome.

Old Pete had a pretty decent career but ended up losing more games then he won. He won 20 games 3 times. he finished with a 222-224 record and a 3.21 ERA.

Teddy Ballgame played his first 13 years for the Red Sox and he was very good, topping at .398 42/126 in 1943. He was traded to the Cubs in 1953 after a couple injuries curtailed his production somewhat. Still had some decent years but nothing compared to the first part of his career. he ended up just shy of 3000 hits (2994) but hit 530 homers and knocked in 1732 runs. He was a .303 lifetime hitter when he retired in 1963 from the Mets.

[Rahhja]

Originally Posted by SittingDuck

Steve Carlton
Jim Palmer

Lefty was pretty much a disapointment. Started off decently with the Cards but was left unprotected in the 1969 expansion draft and was taken by the Seattle Pilots. At that point he was infected with suck. Ended up 37-48 with a 3.48 ERA and retired in 1972 at the age of 27.

Jim Palmer played with the Orioles for 8 years before calling it quits in 1972. Had some pretty good years but never won 20 games. He retired in 1972 with a 98-98 record.

[Rahhja]

Originally Posted by ryanivr

Don Mattingly please

Donnie Baseball was a Yankee. He was always a Yankee. He retired a Yankee. He hit .324 with 32 homers and 116 RBI in 1984. For 7 years he was a very good hitter and then in 1990 it just...disapeared. He became a bench player his last 5 years averaging about 200 at bats a season.

He ended up:

H: 1757 2b: 315 HR: 199 RBI: 843 Avg: .295

[falkonisback]

How about:

Babe Ruth
Barry Bonds
Hank Aaron
Tony Gwynn
Ryne Sandberg
Roger Clemens
Greg Maddux
Cy Young

[Vezna31]

I'll add a few names to the list:

Rube Waddell
Lenny Dykstra
Curt Schilling
Sandy Koufax
Mark McGwire
Mike Schmidt
Richie Ashburn

[SittingDuck]

Originally Posted by Rahhja

Lefty was pretty much a disapointment. Started off decently with the Cards but was left unprotected in the 1969 expansion draft and was taken by the Seattle Pilots. At that point he was infected with suck. Ended up 37-48 with a 3.48 ERA and retired in 1972 at the age of 27.

Jim Palmer played with the Orioles for 8 years before calling it quits in 1972. Had some pretty good years but never won 20 games. He retired in 1972 with a 98-98 record.

You see, I've simmed those leagues several times and neither Lefty nor Palmer ever have their endurance levels rise up appropriately. At least for me. And so they stay pretty lame. Now note, this is using the Gambo DB where they come in younger and you have to build them up via the farm system.

I guess with the default Lahman they come in with more appropriate endurance levels, but then there is absolutely no need for a minors system when they are drafted ready to go like with Lahman. A secondary roster is all that's needed then.

So that's my gripe - that there really is no endurance potential value that the system uses. It really should be created when the player is initially imported. I'll run it by Markus and see what he says.

Bottom line - it seems recalc off hurts pitchers the most, by far.

[Rahhja]

Originally Posted by falkonisback

How about:

Babe Ruth
Barry Bonds
Hank Aaron
Tony Gwynn

The Bambino just played 2 years in the majors and that as a pitcher. He retired in 1926 after spending his last 8 years in the minors.

Barry Bonds has had a very nice career so far. He's never played a game in the minors and outside of missing seven months in 1995 with a back injury, he's never missed a game..period. He's been with the Pirates since coming into the league. He's brought the Pirates to the playoffs 8 times since 1986 and won 3 World Series Championships. His best year came in 1999, hitting 53 homers, driving in 173 and hitting .324 with a 1.179 OPS. He's a six time MVP and an 11 time All-Star. He's only 35 and shows no signs of slowing down.

Career stats so far...

H: 2130 2b: 382 3b: 89 HR: 458 RBI: 1430 BB: 1447 Avg: .300

Hammering Hank had a nice Hall of Fame career playing with the Braves. He won 2 MVP awards. He brought the Braves to the Series 6 times, winning 3 of them. His best year was in 1956 where he hit 49 homers, drove in 126 runs and hit .288. he retired in 1973.

Stats:

H: 3436 2b: 537 HR: 661 RBI: 2034 Avg: .280

Tony Gwynn played from 1982 till his retirement in 1996 with the Padres. he started out very nicely averaging .330 for his first 5 years in the league. In 1988 he fractured his cheekbone (missed 2 months). In 1989 he dislocated his shoulder (7 months). In 1990 he dislocated his shoulder again (7 months). At this point he was done. He tooled around with the Pads as a sub till calling it quits.