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Old 02-21-2020, 06:26 PM   #1
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OOTP21 Feature Disappointment

I was hoping that OOTP21 would finally introduce a dedicated server for use with head to head (face to face) play for on line league use !! My major disappointment non-feature! Perfect Team gets all the attention.
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Old 02-21-2020, 06:38 PM   #2
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And continue to. Sucks man, been waiting since it was promised for 6 or whatever number it was.
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Old 02-21-2020, 07:36 PM   #3
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And continue to. Sucks man, been waiting since it was promised for 6 or whatever number it was.
I was hoping The LINK! would take care of this.
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Old 02-21-2020, 08:39 PM   #4
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I was hoping The LINK! would take care of this.
The LINK! Oh man, haven't thought about that in years.
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I was hoping that OOTP21 would finally introduce a dedicated server for use with head to head (face to face) play for on line league use !! My major disappointment non-feature! Perfect Team gets all the attention.
I've asked this of Markus for over a decade. I don't think he's got any interest in doing this. It's the one feature that would have me declare OOTP "Perfect".
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I've asked this of Markus for over a decade. I don't think he's got any interest in doing this. It's the one feature that would have me declare OOTP "Perfect".
It's a matter of how much effort a feature is, and how many people actually would use it. Live head-to-head in traditional online leagues is not something many people would use at all. It may sound nice, but in practice the logistics behind it (people need to meet at a scheduled time online to play, so their online league can keep on simulating). Remember the feature where people could export results of their played-out games and the commish could import them? Exactly 3% of all online leagues used the feature, hence we did not carry it over when we had the big rewrite in 2005/2006. Cheating is also an issue, it could not be prevented because the league file is not at a central place, unless we would start hosting them, which would make no business sense at all.

Now, head-to-head for Perfect Team is an entirely different matter, because of the centralized architecture of the system, which makes cheating impossible. And yes, head-to-head for PT will come in the future, that mode makes perfect sense here (for unscheduled exhibition games, not regular scheduled league games of course), unlike in traditional online leagues.

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Old 02-22-2020, 03:41 AM   #8
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Yeah, non-PT players got totally hosed on this...!
That made me chuckle.
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This.

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Yeah, non-PT players got totally hosed on this...!
Just wait - any day now we should get the annual "Nothing new for Fictional players" thread.
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Just wait - any day now we should get the annual "Nothing new for Fictional players" thread.
No, no. I haven't done that for years. I've got religion now.
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Just wait - any day now we should get the annual "Nothing new for Fictional players" thread.
I can really just mostly copy the post from above for that one, too.
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I can really just mostly copy the post from above for that one, too.
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No promotion and relegation?!?!?

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That made me chuckle.
Not advocating head to head in online leagues, but the fact that you laugh it off, makes the point honestly.

Onliners have been taking it up the arse since PT came about. Not looking to get into it with you, but those of us taking it know the truth. Oh we'll continue to buy it because its what powers our leagues, but that's the only reason.
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Not advocating head to head in online leagues, but the fact that you laugh it off, makes the point honestly.

Onliners have been taking it up the arse since PT came about. Not looking to get into it with you, but those of us taking it know the truth. Oh we'll continue to buy it because its what powers our leagues, but that's the only reason.
I didn't take it as Markus laughing off online head to head. He was laughing in response to Westheim's post, that was made in response to the OP saying "Perfect Team gets all the attention.". With Westheim's list of some of the major new features for v21 showing that it is definitely not the case. :shrug:
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