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02-18-2010, 01:41 PM | #1 |
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1901 - 2009 Replay
I got bored this morning and rather than being productive, I ran a replay. Players imported with their proper teams, three levels of minors, recalc off, etc.
The Red Sox made the playoffs 22 times and had 9 championships. The Twins 25/10, Yanks 23/7, Athletics 28/9, Giants 25/11, the Cardinals... 35/16. Most teams were spread out in their victories, bunching them together in twos or threes and then fading away. The Twins appeared in eleven World Series between 1964 and 1976, winning 8 of them. The Diamondbacks are the only franchise not to make the playoffs - the Rays have once. The White Sox and the Cubs combined for 12 playoff appearances and zero World Series victories. Sorry, Chicago. Kansas City, the Angels, the Blue Jays and the Nationals round out those with no rings. The Orioles have the worst franchise win percentage at .464, not counting the DBacks at .458. The Cardinals lead at .538. Eight men have hit 4 HRs in a game, nobody has done 5. Bob Horner and George Sisler are the only players with 7 hits in a game. Austin McHenry had a hit in 41 straight games in 1921. Sandy Koufax struck out 18 in a game. Bill Donovan, Doug Drabek, Johnny Podres, Sam McDowell and Walter Johnson have thrown two No-Hitters. Al Orth (1902), Art Fromme (1907), Jim Merritt (1967), Tom Griffin (1981), Shane Rawley (1985), Roy Smith (1986), Frank Castillo (1997) are those who have pitched perfect games. Frank Castillo! By VORP, Rogers Hornsby is far and away the best hitter with a 1799.43 mark. He played from 1915 through 1936, amassing 2324 runs (3rd all time), 4050 hits (2nd), 469 HRs (27th), 2063 RBIs (7th) and a .374/.448/.603 slash line. Bert Blyleven put up a 1340.21 VORP between 1970 and 1989. His 394 wins are third behind Cy Young and Kid Nichols. 693 starts (7th) with a .6888 win percentage (3rd behind pe-sim Al Spalding and Dave Foutz), 5472.1 IP (7th), 5034 strikeouts (1st. 2nd place is Floyd Youmans (who?) with 3906). Nomar Garciaparra is 2nd in VORP with 1346.03, and is still active with terrific ratings at the start of 2009. 2767 hits, 597 doubles and homeruns with a .365/.413/.700 start line. A .700 slugging! That is far and away the best of all time, with Pujols trailing at .637. He hit .405 in 2000, becoming the first man to hit .400 since... Lance Berkman hit .410 in 2000. Before them you have to go to George Sisler in 1929 with .400. Babe Ruth imported as a pitcher and only saw parts of five seasons of big league action out of the bullpen. Anyone have any requests? |
02-18-2010, 04:45 PM | #2 |
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Too bad Floyd Youmans wasn't that great in real life. He was the key guy with Hubie Brooks in the Garry Carter trade to New York...
BTW what kind of success had achieved the Expos in your simulation? Last edited by AESP_pres; 02-18-2010 at 04:46 PM. |
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I always ask. How did Fergie Jenkins do? It always seems that he is never as good in the simulations.
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The Washington Nationals nee Expos have had a frustrating history. Eight of their first nine years were spent with more than 90 losses in 5th or 6th place. They slowly improved over the next few seasons, making the World Series in 1981, losing to the Athletics, and the NLCS in 1982. That 1981 team featured Carter, Raines, Dawson, Tony Bernazard and Gary Roenicke's 104 VORP season. Charlie Lea won 21 games while Sanderson, Gullickson and Palmer all won 15 to 18. Bob James saved 37 games.
1983 and '84 were spent in second place followed by another NLCS deeat in '85. The team fell apart after that and finished at least 11 games back every season but one until 1994. Between 1994 and 2001 they made the playoffs five times, only winning the division once, but never advanced to the World Series. These were the Walker/Floyd (still with the Expos through 2008)/Guerrero teams with Youmans, Kirk Rueter, Mel Rojas and Ugie Urbina on the staff. They have bounced between fifth and first place since then. Fergie Jenkins pitched for fifteen seasons with the Phillies, Giants and Angels. He went 173-162 with a 3.86 ERA, totalling 2918 IP in 463 starts. In 1965 he tore his labrum, had a partial tear again in '68 and '73. 1974 saw a flexor tendon tear in his elbow and 1979 gave him shoulder inflammation, leading directly to his retirement that offseason. His sophomore campaign was his best: 41.4 VORP, 19-10, 2.75 ERA, 238 IP, 187 Ks. He ranks tenth on the Phillies leaderboard in losses with 123, helped along by his 22 losses in 1971 (7th worst for them, but 2nd worst since 1891). 10th on all time starts list for Philadelphia, fifth in strikeouts, ninth in K/BBs. |
02-18-2010, 06:16 PM | #5 |
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Well the Cubs and White Sox seem almost the same as real life. maybe if they had won a few titles.
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The Cubs made the playoffs in 1930, '34, '35 and... 1990. Gabby Hartnett, Dolph Camilli, Marcus Jensen, Stan Hack and Rafael Palmeiro are their five best batters. Palmeiro spent the first six years of his career with the Cubs before fleeing to Kansas City in free agency. He finished his career in the Hall of Fame with 3026 hits, 525 doubles, 486 HRs and a .311/.384/.525 line. All three of his MVPs were with the Cubs as well as 4 of his 6 All Star games. On the mound they looked towards the immortal Frank Castillo (still active with the Cubs: a 659 VORP, 195-206 record, 3.83 ERA, 2581 Ks in 3576 IP), John Buzhardt, Dick Ellsworth, Ed Morris and Pat Malone. Greg Maddux (10th by VORP) pitched 17 of his 19 seasons with them and went 158-217 with a 4.57 ERA over 530 starts. |
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Actually considering the RL Phillies history, this could have been his record had he not been traded to the Cubs.
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02-18-2010, 07:29 PM | #8 |
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Did you turn on free agency and if so when? Also can you give the top 10 in both single season and career in HRs, Hits and SBs for hitters and Wins, Saves and Ks for pitchers. Also did you use adjust league totals for accuracy? I like to turn this off and let the actual yearly totals each year control the replay. Gives some very interesting numbers.
Also how did the Dodgers and Bill Buckner do? Billy |
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Free agency was turned on after 1975, adjusement for accuracy was on.
Buckner stayed in baseball for 14 seasons, most with the Dodgers, only garnering 1234 hits and a .276/.306/.363 line. 2 All Star games, nothing else of note. The Dodgers finished the sim with a .497 win percentage, 16 playoff appearances and 3 championships. They didn't win their division until 1940, followed by 1941. They were mediocre until 1958, again making the playoffs, and won the World Series in 1960 and 1962. '65 was another defeat, 1967 was their third and final ring. 1978, '92, '95, 2000, '01, '05-'08 were their other playoff years. They had a ton of turnover amongst their positional players while winning those championships with only Frank Howard being a starter for all three. They were, of course, led by Koufax, Drysdale and Podres. Perranoski held down the closer position. Their top five hitters were Charlie Neal, Adrian Beltre (still active and only 29), Campanella, Steve Garvey, Mariano Duncan. Koufax, Pedro (still active), Van Mungo, Don Sutton and Don Drysdale were their five best pitchers. Koufax spent 17 seasons with them, one with the Expos and nine with the Astros. All told, he played from 1955 through 1981. His time out of LA was spent almost entirely in the bullpen and was entirely terrible. After leaving LA he never had an ERA below 5.25 yet still logged almost 500 innings. His overall VORP was 641, but that counts the fact that he logged a NEGATIVE 198 after leaving the Dodgers. 270-208, 3.14 ERA, 4277 innings (551 starts and 200 bullpen appearances), 3891 strikeouts. I'll give the general leaderboards later on. |
02-18-2010, 10:23 PM | #10 |
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When applicable, I deleted the pre-sim, pre-1901 records. I left in the overall ranking so you can see where they officially wound up. I can't give you single season wins as all of the records are pre-1901. My fault for importing complete history, I suppose. * Indicates Hall of Fame, # indicates active Player.
Single Season Homeruns Code:
1 Mark McGwire* 74 1997 2 Mark McGwire* 67 1994 3 Nomar Garciaparra# 66 2002 4 Mark McGwire* 65 1988 5 Carlos Pena# 64 2002 5 Ryan Howard# 64 2006 7 Carlos Pena# 62 2004 7 Roger Maris 62 1961 9 Prince Fielder# 61 2006 9 Nomar Garciaparra# 61 2000 11 Nomar Garciaparra# 60 2003 11 Todd Helton# 60 2001 11 Bob Allison 60 1964 Single Season Hits Code:
1 Rogers Hornsby* 266 1924 2 Austin McHenry 265 1921 2 Nomar Garciaparra# 265 2000 4 Rod Carew* 264 1970 5 George Burns 261 1921 6 Rogers Hornsby* 257 1920 7 George Sisler* 254 1929 8 Bob Horner* 253 1982 9 Al Simmons* 250 1932 9 Rogers Hornsby* 250 1921 11 Glenn Wright 247 1926 11 Nomar Garciaparra# 247 1998 Code:
2 Rajai Davis# 132 2008 4 Rajai Davis# 122 2007 5 Vince Coleman 119 1988 7 Larry Lintz 111 1978 12 Juan Samuel 108 1987 18 Brett Butler 100 1988 20 Jeff Stone 98 1988 20 Juan Samuel 98 1986 25 Willie Wilson 96 1977 26 Brett Butler 95 1981 Code:
1 Dave Righetti 51 1986 2 Mike Henneman 50 1991 3 Roger McDowell 49 1989 3 Al Holland 49 1985 5 Billy Koch# 48 2006 5 Roger McDowell 48 1990 5 Jonathan Papelbon# 48 2008 8 Mike Hartley 47 1991 8 Manuel Corpas# 47 2008 8 Rick Aguilera 47 1989 8 Brad Clontz# 47 2004 8 Dave Smith 47 1992 8 Greg McMichael 47 1994 8 Todd Worrell 47 1993 Code:
14 Sandy Koufax* 345 1962 19 Sandy Koufax* 339 1963 24 Sandy Koufax* 331 1964 28 Jim Merritt* 321 1966 29 Don Drysdale 319 1962 33 Milt Pappas* 312 1964 34 Sandy Koufax* 310 1967 35 Bert Blyleven* 309 1973 38 Don Drysdale 307 1961 38 Bert Blyleven* 307 1975 |
02-19-2010, 03:45 AM | #11 |
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Were the Cubs of 1900-1915 really bad? In RL i think they had some of the best records for 1yr, 2yrs, all the way up to 10 years in the history of baseball.
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Career Hits Code:
1 Ed Delahanty* 4295 1888-1913 2 Rogers Hornsby* 4050 1915-1936 3 Hal Trosky* 4014 1933-1955 4 Al Simmons* 3837 1924-1942 5 Steve Garvey* 3675 1969-1990 6 Jimmie Foxx* 3571 1925-1949 7 George Brett* 3435 1973-1994 8 Cap Anson* 3418 1871-1897 9 Lou Gehrig* 3385 1924-1946 10 Bob Horner* 3338 1978-1995 11 George Sisler* 3318 1915-1933 12 Rod Carew* 3192 1967-1985 13 Eddie Murray* 3144 1977-1995 14 Cecil Cooper* 3085 1971-1988 15 Jesse Burkett* 3074 1890-1910 16 Rafael Palmeiro* 3026 1986-2003 17 Jerry Browne* 3016 1986-2007 18 Joe Jackson* 3003 1908-1933 19 Will Clark 2998 1986-2003 Career Homers Code:
1 Mark McGwire* 887 1986-2002 2 Bob Horner* 742 1978-1995 3 Jimmie Foxx* 651 1925-1949 4 Jim Thome# 648 1991-2008 5 Ted Kluszewski* 622 1947-1962 6 Hal Trosky* 606 1933-1955 7 Harmon Killebrew* 602 1954-1973 8 Nomar Garciaparra# 597 1996-2008 9 Carlos Delgado# 561 1993-2008 10 Willie McCovey* 552 1959-1978 11 Mickey Mantle* 530 1951-1967 12 Eddie Murray* 520 1977-1995 13 Eddie Mathews* 511 1952-1970 14 Lou Gehrig* 508 1924-1946 15 Hank Greenberg* 505 1931-1951 16 Dwight Evans* 504 1972-1992 17 Jose Canseco* 503 1985-2005 18 Sammy Sosa 500 1989-2004 19 Terry Steinbach* 494 1986-2002 20 Jack Clark* 492 1975-1992 21 Albert Belle 490 1989-2004 21 Todd Helton# 490 1997-2008 Career Steals Code:
1 Juan Samuel 929 1983-1994 2 Billy Hamilton 928 1888-1906 3 Brett Butler 865 1981-1992 4 Kenny Lofton 791 1991-2004 5 Rickey Henderson 774 1979-1993 6 Sherry Magee 759 1904-1920 7 Arlie Latham* 738 1880-1899 8 Vince Coleman 732 1985-1995 9 Frankie Frisch* 719 1919-1936 10 Tom Lawless 704 1982-1996 Code:
1 Cy Young* 444 1890-1910 2 Kid Nichols* 404 1890-1907 3 Bert Blyleven* 394 1970-1989 4 Christy Mathewson* 389 1900-1925 5 Pud Galvin* 364 1875-1892 6 Tim Keefe* 342 1880-1893 7 Claude Osteen* 336 1957-1977 8 Jim Nash* 334 1966-1990 9 John Clarkson* 328 1882-1894 10 Larry Dierker* 327 1964-1988 11 Rube Marquard* 326 1908-1927 12 Walter Johnson* 321 1907-1925 13 Ewell Blackwell* 314 1942-1961 14 Whit Wyatt* 313 1929-1948 15 Charley Radbourn* 309 1881-1891 16 Van Mungo* 307 1931-1951 16 Mickey Welch* 307 1880-1892 16 George Winter* 307 1901-1921 19 Cy Falkenberg* 306 1903-1920 20 Jim Palmer* 301 1965-1986 21 Bobby Mathews 297 1871-1887 22 Dwight Gooden# 294 1984-2008 Career Saves Code:
1 Rich Gossage 459 1972-1992 2 Rod Beck# 410 1991-2008 3 Gregg Olson 360 1988-2002 4 Roger McDowell 356 1985-1997 5 Dave Smith 354 1980-1997 6 Ugueth Urbina# 345 1995-2008 7 John Wetteland 339 1989-2003 8 Doug Jones 335 1983-1998 9 Jason Isringhausen 326 1995-2008 10 Bryan Harvey 325 1987-2001 Career Strikeouts Code:
1 Bert Blyleven* 5034 1970-1989 2 Floyd Youmans 3906 1985-2004 3 David Cone 3902 1986-2006 4 Sandy Koufax* 3891 1955-1981 5 Jim Nash* 3792 1966-1990 6 Larry Dierker* 3760 1964-1988 7 Mickey Lolich* 3726 1963-1985 8 Dwight Gooden# 3542 1984-2008 9 Milt Pappas* 3494 1957-1974 10 Pedro Martinez# 3480 1992-2008 Last edited by Kelric; 02-19-2010 at 10:25 AM. |
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Thanx for the info, some interesting numbers...after seeing the Dodgers history and top players, I am curious what happen to the following:
Carl Furillo, Jackie Robinson, Duke Snider, Roy Campanella, Pee Wee Reese, Gil Hodges and Don Newcombe. Also one guy that always seems to do good in my leagues with recal off, Stan Lopata. |
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Furillo was replacement level, putting up a .270/.300/.408 line in ten seasons, though he only saw 400+ at-bats in his first and third years. He won a Gold Glove with only 99 games in RF in 1952 and was an All Star in 1948, going .291/.323/.420 in 115 games. His ratings started to drop early and then he got hit with injuries. He was traded to Cleveland in 1953 and played his last season in the bigs with the Red Sox in 1955.
Robinson was good, but not great. 5 AS games and 1 GG with a career 248.7 VORP. .289/.361/.434, 1272 hits. He was traded to the Orioles in 1955 and spent his last season with Kansas City in '57. His best year was 1949, the year he won the GG, with a 56.2 VORP and .304/.390/.481 line. The Duke had a 149.2 VORP between 1947 and 1962, spending most of his career on the bench or the DL. 1951 was his lone AS selection as he put up a .255/.311/.425 line even though it wasn't his best season. He left Brooklyn after 1954, bouncing to seven different franchises with two stops with the Orioles and Angels. Roy Campanella. Rookie of the Year, four Gold Gloves, eleven All Star appearances. Between 1948 and 1962 he had a 575.5 VORP (5th amongst catchers) and a .295/.383/.536 slash line while spending his entire career with the Dodgers. 1633 games behind the plate, 995 runs, 1738 hits, 220 doubles, 380 HRs, 1142 RBIs. At the time of his retirement he held the record for catchers for HRs and was 2nd in VORP. |
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Hey kelric, I miss the OBL (White Sox owner) . Let's bring it back!!!
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