Best defensive shortstop

Orcin · 07-21-2019, 02:34 PM

The best I have seen are 66 Aparicio, 65 Belanger, and 62 Marion at 115. Next, I have 60 Ordonez at 114, 89 Cronin at 113, 88 Boudreau at 112, 68 Rizzuto at 110, 91 Rizzuto, 90 Ozzie, 62 Burleson at 109, and 91 Travis Jackson, 73 Roy McMillan and 70 Ozzie Smith at 108.

Edit: original list updated to include players added by others below. Who am I missing at 108 or more?

justpatrick · 07-21-2019, 02:42 PM

Depends on how low you want to go. The 84 Pesky is 103, and isn´t Rowdy Richard Bartell up there somewhere?

Edit: The 68 Rizutto is 110, holy cow!

Also found the 62 Burleson at 109, who knew? This is fun! And finally to round out the 100 club, I found 56 Durocher at an even 100.

QuantaCondor · 07-21-2019, 02:46 PM

Don't forget 60 Rey Ordonez at 114 and 62 Rick Burleson at 109.

moalkha · 07-21-2019, 02:47 PM

91 Phil Rizzuto is at 109

mcdog512 · 07-21-2019, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

The best I have seen are 66 Aparicio, 65 Belanger, and 62 Marion at 115. Next, I have 89 Cronin at 113, followed by 88 Boudreau at 112, 90 Ozzie at 109, and 91 Travis Jackson, 73 Roy McMillan and 70 Ozzie Smith at 108. Who am I missing?

Pesky and Bartell for sure.

Orcin · 07-21-2019, 02:54 PM

Bartell is 106. Pesky is 103.

I actually had 91 Rizzuto and forgot about him.

I am really looking for guys that are over 108, especially guys that could realistically play in Perfect Leagues.

dodger300 · 07-21-2019, 03:38 PM

I platoon Pesky 103 def, and Aparicio 115 def. Even though Aparicio is a bronze card he can play in perfect.

neugey · 07-21-2019, 04:27 PM

62 HH Rick Burleson (109 def), 63 Hist All-Star Marty Marion (115 def) ... oops didn't see Marion already mentioned above

daves · 07-21-2019, 04:36 PM

Has any Second baseman been successful at short? Jackie maybe?

Live Simmons is 103.

Orcin · 07-21-2019, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by daves

Has any Second baseman been successful at short? Jackie maybe?

Live Simmons is 103.

99 Robinson can only get to 100.

Orcin · 07-21-2019, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dodger300

I platoon Pesky 103 def, and Aparicio 115 def. Even though Aparicio is a bronze card he can play in perfect.

Yeah? What's his career OPS?

pappyzan · 07-21-2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

The best I have seen are 66 Aparicio, 65 Belanger, and 62 Marion at 115. Next, I have 60 Ordonez at 114, 89 Cronin at 113, 88 Boudreau at 112, 68 Rizzuto at 110, 91 Rizzuto, 90 Ozzie, 62 Burleson at 109, and 91 Travis Jackson, 73 Roy McMillan and 70 Ozzie Smith at 108.

Edit: original list updated to include players added by others below. Who am I missing at 108 or more?

This looks to be it for 108 and higher

Orcin · 07-21-2019, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pappyzan

This looks to be it for 108 and higher

Thanks!

Charlatan · 07-21-2019, 09:53 PM

89 OVR Cronin can get to 113

daves · 07-21-2019, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

The best I have seen are 66 Aparicio?

I find it odd that 66 Aparicio is a better fielder than his “PEAK” self.

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Orcin · 07-21-2019, 10:14 PM

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89 OVR Cronin can get to 113

Yep, he was in the original list.

ScudDawg · 07-21-2019, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by daves

I find it odd that 66 Aparicio is a better fielder than his “PEAK” self.

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I was thinking the same thing, lol.

Charlatan · 07-21-2019, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

Yep, he was in the original list.

Man, I coulda sworn he wasn't there when I first looked!

Dogberry99 · 07-21-2019, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by daves

I find it odd that 66 Aparicio is a better fielder than his “PEAK” self.

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Most PEAK cards have worse fielding and running ratings than other cards of the same player. Aparicio is not unique in this regard.

One Great Matrix · 07-22-2019, 02:13 AM

Looks like the PEAK aspect of the card is offense-oriented only (By one report a player's best season in each batting category). The defense might be more like...career average? ... certainly not their best season defensively.

07-21-2019, 02:34 PM	#1
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	Best defensive shortstop The best I have seen are 66 Aparicio, 65 Belanger, and 62 Marion at 115. Next, I have 60 Ordonez at 114, 89 Cronin at 113, 88 Boudreau at 112, 68 Rizzuto at 110, 91 Rizzuto, 90 Ozzie, 62 Burleson at 109, and 91 Travis Jackson, 73 Roy McMillan and 70 Ozzie Smith at 108. Edit: original list updated to include players added by others below. Who am I missing at 108 or more? Last edited by Orcin; 07-21-2019 at 03:03 PM. Reason: updated list

07-21-2019, 02:42 PM	#2
justpatrick Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 305	Depends on how low you want to go. The 84 Pesky is 103, and isn´t Rowdy Richard Bartell up there somewhere? Edit: The 68 Rizutto is 110, holy cow! Also found the 62 Burleson at 109, who knew? This is fun! And finally to round out the 100 club, I found 56 Durocher at an even 100. __________________ Last edited by justpatrick; 07-21-2019 at 02:48 PM.

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QuantaCondor All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 560	Don't forget 60 Rey Ordonez at 114 and 62 Rick Burleson at 109. __________________ Former leader of BFF, the definitive competitive PT group for F2P players. DM for info F2P + restrictions. First F2P winner of PT21 Perfect League F2P + restrictions. New team -> PT title in 8 weeks

07-21-2019, 02:47 PM	#4
moalkha Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Italy Posts: 297	91 Phil Rizzuto is at 109 __________________

07-21-2019, 02:54 PM	#6
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	Bartell is 106. Pesky is 103. I actually had 91 Rizzuto and forgot about him. I am really looking for guys that are over 108, especially guys that could realistically play in Perfect Leagues. Last edited by Orcin; 07-21-2019 at 03:02 PM.

07-21-2019, 03:38 PM	#7
dodger300 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 268	I platoon Pesky 103 def, and Aparicio 115 def. Even though Aparicio is a bronze card he can play in perfect. __________________

07-21-2019, 04:27 PM	#8
neugey All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 805 Blog Entries: 39	62 HH Rick Burleson (109 def), 63 Hist All-Star Marty Marion (115 def) ... oops didn't see Marion already mentioned above __________________ Online OOTP League Play: PBA - Cincinnati Reds MLM - Baltimore Orioles Last edited by neugey; 07-21-2019 at 04:36 PM.

07-21-2019, 04:36 PM	#9
daves Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,635	Has any Second baseman been successful at short? Jackie maybe? Live Simmons is 103. __________________

07-21-2019, 09:53 PM	#14
Charlatan All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,491	89 OVR Cronin can get to 113

07-22-2019, 02:13 AM	#20
One Great Matrix All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,782	Looks like the PEAK aspect of the card is offense-oriented only (By one report a player's best season in each batting category). The defense might be more like...career average? ... certainly not their best season defensively. __________________