OOTPOU Online Utilities 2.1 - Page 3

snnort · 03-12-2008, 03:30 PM

Getch... I asked something like this on our league forum (OTM) but thought I'd put it in simpler terms and for more to see (since it may take a group effort to figure)...

My question is, on the next patch of OOTPOU how hard would it be to input the so-called Smyth/Patriot method (aka Pythagenpat ) of X=((rs+ra)/g)^.285 into the "Pythagorean Exponent" field in OOTPOU for the Playoff Odds Report?

Long_Long_Name · 03-12-2008, 06:12 PM

I found out about this yesterday, and my owners seem very interested in using them. However... I seem to have a problem setting it up. I followed the readme instructions, and didn't find the issue I was am running into in the file.

I created a csv subdirectory in cgi-bin, and filled in the box to point there. The csv files are there, yet when I click on "save", it prompts me to select a manager from a dropdown list. The problem is, the list is empty. If I try to reload the page, I get something blank. I have to delete setup.txt and try again, but I keep running into the problem. I thought perhaps accents in csv files were throwing it off, so I removed them, but I still get the same mistake.

thomamon · 03-12-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

I found out about this yesterday, and my owners seem very interested in using them. However... I seem to have a problem setting it up. I followed the readme instructions, and didn't find the issue I was am running into in the file.

I created a csv subdirectory in cgi-bin, and filled in the box to point there. The csv files are there, yet when I click on "save", it prompts me to select a manager from a dropdown list. The problem is, the list is empty. If I try to reload the page, I get something blank. I have to delete setup.txt and try again, but I keep running into the problem. I thought perhaps accents in csv files were throwing it off, so I removed them, but I still get the same mistake.

What is your listing for CGI Folder and CSV directory on server. This is what they should read:

CGI Folder: cgi-bin
CSV directory on server: csv

Long_Long_Name · 03-12-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

What is your listing for CGI Folder and CSV directory on server. This is what they should read:

CGI Folder: cgi-bin
CSV directory on server: csv

Indeed, that is what I wrote. I also put ".." for the html root, for what it's worth. I can get through the first step with the first three fields fine, getting the stylesheet to work.

thomamon · 03-12-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

Indeed, that is what I wrote. I also put ".." for the html root, for what it's worth. I can get through the first step with the first three fields fine, getting the stylesheet to work.

I am not sure what you mean, but I will do a screen shot of how my setup looks.

thomamon · 03-12-2008, 07:35 PM

See if this helps at all, this is how the settings should look.

Long_Long_Name · 03-12-2008, 07:50 PM

Ok, so here is what I did:

1. I copied all files and folders in the zip file to my cgi-bin directory.
2. I changed the permissions for the ootpou.pl file.
3. I uploaded my csv files to cgi-bin/csv
4. I changed the ootpou.pl path to the right perl location.
5. I filled in all the fields, and end up with this:

Long_Long_Name · 03-12-2008, 07:54 PM

Also, if I try to click "save" again, I get this screen. The only way I found to reset it is to delete setup.txt and start again, although... well, it hasn't done any good so far

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thomamon · 03-12-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

Ok, so here is what I did:

1. I copied all files and folders in the zip file to my cgi-bin directory.
2. I changed the permissions for the ootpou.pl file.
3. I uploaded my csv files to cgi-bin/csv
4. I changed the ootpou.pl path to the right perl location.
5. I filled in all the fields, and end up with this:

You have the HTML root entirely wrong, you can't put .. You have to list it like in mine.

Long_Long_Name · 03-12-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

You have the HTML root entirely wrong, you can't put .. You have to list it like in mine.

Well, I took it from the readme file, which says "If your CGI Folder field is "cgi-bin", you should be able to just enter in ".." as well."

I've tried a few other paths that seemed logical, but they didn't work. I'll further investigate. Thanks for your time

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thomamon · 03-12-2008, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

Well, I took it from the readme file, which says "If your CGI Folder field is "cgi-bin", you should be able to just enter in ".." as well."

I've tried a few other paths that seemed logical, but they didn't work. I'll further investigate. Thanks for your time

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OK, Maybe I am wrong. Getch is the expert, and he seems to be MIA tonight. He has 8 minutes to make his pick in the APBL and he hasn't done it yet.

thomamon · 03-12-2008, 09:02 PM

Double check your chmod is set exactly the way its requested. I thought I had mine right, and it did something similar.

Long_Long_Name · 03-12-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

OK, Maybe I am wrong. Getch is the expert, and he seems to be MIA tonight. He has 8 minutes to make his pick in the APBL and he hasn't done it yet.

Oh, it doesn't matter, nothing actually happens when the clock winds down to zero

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I tried inserting the actual html root (which, in Powweb's and thus my case, is "htdocs"), and I have identical results, unfortunately.

Long_Long_Name · 03-12-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

Double check your chmod is set exactly the way its requested. I thought I had mine right, and it did something similar.

For some reason, it had changed to 750, so I changed it back to 755 (which, funnily, was also the number of views of this thread before I posted this

). In any case, I get the same problem, sadly. I only have to chmod the ootpou.pl file, right? There's no other mention of other folders or files in the readme.

In other news, I found conflicting data concerning my Perl path. I had written /usr/bin/perl thanks to a Powweb message board post, but the official Powweb help section has it as /usr/local/bin/perl. However, changing this didn't solve my problem. It did reset permission to 750 (a-ha!), but changing it to 755 didn't help any either.

thomamon · 03-12-2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

For some reason, it had changed to 750, so I changed it back to 755 (which, funnily, was also the number of views of this thread before I posted this

). In any case, I get the same problem, sadly. I only have to chmod the ootpou.pl file, right? There's no other mention of other folders or files in the readme.

In other news, I found conflicting data concerning my Perl path. I had written /usr/bin/perl thanks to a Powweb message board post, but the official Powweb help section has it as /usr/local/bin/perl. However, changing this didn't solve my problem. It did reset permission to 750 (a-ha!), but changing it to 755 didn't help any either.

For some reason it doesn't sound like your chmod is taking? Anyway, I thought you had to chmod the entire OOTPOU directory, thats what I did. Try that.

Long_Long_Name · 03-12-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

For some reason it doesn't sound like your chmod is taking? Anyway, I thought you had to chmod the entire OOTPOU directory, thats what I did. Try that.

I chmod the directory, and all the files in it. No change

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sporr · 03-13-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

I chmod the directory, and all the files in it. No change

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I use Powweb as well and your settings are all correct. There are 18 csv files that you need to upload. It looks like some info is missing or you don't have all of them uploaded.

Getch · 03-13-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

I found out about this yesterday, and my owners seem very interested in using them. However... I seem to have a problem setting it up. I followed the readme instructions, and didn't find the issue I was am running into in the file.

I created a csv subdirectory in cgi-bin, and filled in the box to point there. The csv files are there, yet when I click on "save", it prompts me to select a manager from a dropdown list. The problem is, the list is empty. If I try to reload the page, I get something blank. I have to delete setup.txt and try again, but I keep running into the problem. I thought perhaps accents in csv files were throwing it off, so I removed them, but I still get the same mistake.

ootpou.pl checks to see if the csv directory is valid by looking for leagues.csv in that directory, and if it finds it, it'll enable the login mechanism and force you to log in. So, your setup.txt is fine. You're probably missing some .csv files, most notably, human_managers.csv or teams.csv. Make sure they exist.

Getch · 03-13-2008, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snnort

Getch... I asked something like this on our league forum (OTM) but thought I'd put it in simpler terms and for more to see (since it may take a group effort to figure)...

My question is, on the next patch of OOTPOU how hard would it be to input the so-called Smyth/Patriot method (aka Pythagenpat ) of X=((rs+ra)/g)^.285 into the "Pythagorean Exponent" field in OOTPOU for the Playoff Odds Report?

I didn't do that particular utility, but I'm sure it wouldn't be hard. Is that a better formula? I notice that the playoff odds report is way off early in the season.

Long_Long_Name · 03-13-2008, 10:34 AM

Thanks Getch and sporr.

I did indeed check that they all existed, because it was included in the readme file, and they do. I even tried to regenerate and reupload them, to no avail. It's quite puzzling. Perhaps I don't have the right method of generating these files? I went in "league setup/importexport/export data to csv files". I have the mac version, if that's relevant.

human_managers.csv
leagues.csv
teams.csv

These file are all in my csv folder.

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03-12-2008, 07:50 PM	#47
Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	Ok, so here is what I did: 1. I copied all files and folders in the zip file to my cgi-bin directory. 2. I changed the permissions for the ootpou.pl file. 3. I uploaded my csv files to cgi-bin/csv 4. I changed the ootpou.pl path to the right perl location. 5. I filled in all the fields, and end up with this: Attached Images __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

03-12-2008, 07:54 PM	#48
Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	Also, if I try to click "save" again, I get this screen. The only way I found to reset it is to delete setup.txt and start again, although... well, it hasn't done any good so far . Attached Images __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

03-12-2008, 09:02 PM	#52
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,274	Double check your chmod is set exactly the way its requested. I thought I had mine right, and it did something similar. __________________ Thomas A. Montalto Please check out my Stupid Little Blog - http://www.stupidlittleblog.com

03-12-2008, 03:30 PM	#41
snnort Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 272	Getch... I asked something like this on our league forum (OTM) but thought I'd put it in simpler terms and for more to see (since it may take a group effort to figure)... My question is, on the next patch of OOTPOU how hard would it be to input the so-called Smyth/Patriot method (aka Pythagenpat ) of X=((rs+ra)/g)^.285 into the "Pythagorean Exponent" field in OOTPOU for the Playoff Odds Report?

03-13-2008, 10:34 AM	#60
Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	Thanks Getch and sporr. I did indeed check that they all existed, because it was included in the readme file, and they do. I even tried to regenerate and reupload them, to no avail. It's quite puzzling. Perhaps I don't have the right method of generating these files? I went in "league setup/importexport/export data to csv files". I have the mac version, if that's relevant. human_managers.csv leagues.csv teams.csv These file are all in my csv folder. __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!