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Old 11-09-2011, 06:10 PM   #1
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British Baseball Society: A Jolly Good Time on the Baseball Pitch

Baseball is seen as a uniquely American sport, with an additional level of strong interest in the Far East, but what if it became popular in other countries too? How would they embrace it, and how would they organize their teams? It's a fun "What if?" question, and Mark Cooley decided to take a stab at it with the British Baseball Society (BBS), which he created thanks to the vast customization options available in Out of the Park Baseball. (Editor's note: I discovered on March 29, 2013 that the BBS site was no longer being hosted by Cooley, so I am now linking to an Internet Archive capture of that site that unfortunately has a lot of broken images. It's the best I can do.)

He explains: "I'm a soccer nut. BBS takes place in the UK (England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland are represented). I didn't want just a regular baseball league set in England, so I tried to figure out a way to mold baseball into more of an English football scenario. What I came up with was each 3-game series being treated as a soccer 'fixture.' Winning a series gets you 3 points. Losing the series, but winning one of the first two games, gets you 1 point. Sweeping the series gets you 4 points. Each club plays the other 7 clubs in its tier in 4 series each season."

He continues: "BBS has three tiers in our world. Each tier has its own 'cup' and the entire country has a cup. Each winner earns money."

At the end of each season, the bottom two teams in Tier 1 are dropped to Tier 2 while the top Tier 2 club is promoted is promoted to Tier 1 and the top Tier 3 club is promoted to Tier 2. The other Tier 2 and Tier 3 clubs promoted to Tiers 1 and 2 are decided through a home-and-home series -- if that series is split, the tie is broken by total runs, and if those are equal, road runs are used; if road runs are equal, a one-game, winner-take-all playoff is scheduled.

Cooley notes: "We're now in our third season and I've seen clubs moved from Tier 3 all the way to Tier 1. I've also seen teams move down. It's all dependent on what the coach does during free agency (FA). Our FA is done auction style using Fidel's great auction app, AllSimBaseball Free Agent Auction 1.0."

He explains other ways the BBS remains authentic to its geography: "Our finances are handled outside the game as each tier has its own ticket price and salary cap, all under 700K per year. We have two transfer periods, much like European football. I've modded the news.xml file to handle the lack of team nicknames. Our teams are named such as European soccer clubs are (Leeds White Rose, Ibrox United, Granite Aberdeen, West Reading BC, Metro Walsall, etc.). We use only names from nationalities that our teams are located, so BBS only has English-, Irish-, and Scottish-named players."

For the future, Cooley plans something he calls a Champions League, which would take baseball worldwide: "This competition would contain the top teams from each country, beginning with a group stage and moving to head to head match-ups, just as most soccer tournaments follow."

Cooley has been a long-time OOTP player since version 2 was released. "I checked it out and ordered it solely to run an historical league called Glory Days Baseball," he recalls. He adds that he had been a videogame player for a long time, "but something was lacking. OOTP 2 filled that need. I still have the disc."

And he expects to stick with OOTP for the foreseeable future: "I've always been solely an online leaguer. That's why I still play OOTP. There are so many ways to customize this game. What other game will allow you to create something like the British Baseball Society?"

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Old 09-30-2020, 04:03 AM   #2
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Well...

Popular enough, however, in Japan, the Dominican Republic, Cuba, Australia even...(see World Baseball Classic).

Interesting that you use, or they used Great Britain, the UK, as the country that lacks baseball (and so the world lacks baseball). They've got a Queen & a shrine to soccer and you run into Brits almost wherever you go in the world. I know next to nothing about Great Britain further than this except that they do not lack the ability to ...do what Elvis did with the blues. (See the Rolling Stones, the Beatles, & The Who.) (& Oasis)... & I watched Princess Diana's funeral.

Do Canadiens play basketball? (See Dr. James Naismith)
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Old 09-30-2020, 04:06 AM   #3
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I guess...

Led Zeppelin gets their own honorable mention.
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Old 10-09-2020, 01:05 PM   #4
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There actually was baseball in Great Britain at one time. It began in the late 19th century and developed a following. The game was originally brought to the British Isles by Canadians and many of the better players in the British leagues were Canadian imports. Unfortunately, the advent of WWI pretty much killed off the sport what with may baseball players at the time either getting conscripted or going to work in a defense related job for the war effort. After the war attempts to revive baseball in Great Britain failed as soccer had become that nation's most popular sport.

Baseball in Great Britain was akin to soccer in the United States during the 1920's. Soccer, which was popular with European immigrants to America, had a professional league that had higher attendance than any other pro league at the time except MLB. This included the NFL. Like WWI with baseball in Great Britain, the Great Depression came along and wrecked pro soccer in the United States for over a generation.
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We got a lot of good soccer players.
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Old 10-06-2021, 04:07 AM   #6
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Hmmm... insomnia and the word 'British' bring me just a tad late to this thread

It's a matter of recurring sadness to me that baseball will never become a real 'thing' in the UK again, at least for the forseeable future. Not least because what, I suspect, will occupy the slot it might have had in this admittedly largely soccer obsessed country is the abomination known as 20/20, or even worse, 'The Hundred', cricket. Not to be confused with the vastly superior long form of the game.

If anyone ever suggests to you 20/20 is even vaguely comparable to baseball, first give them a sad, knowing smile... then laugh in their face.
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