Best Sub-10k pitcher

[baseballonly]

Best pitcher I can get for under 10k? I'm moving up to gold next season but I want a guy who can be serviceable in Diamond.

thanks

[mess]

2003 Halladay has been lights out for me this season in Diamond. Lead my team in Pitcher WAR even though I picked him up late in the season and only pitched 120 innings.

Usually runs for around 5k if you can find him in the AH. Not terribly common but he goes up once in a while.

[DonkeyKongSr]

Of those currently in the Auction House: Tiny Bonham or Roy Halladay.

[Matt Arnold]

I'm a fan of the legend Nolan Ryan. Love the big stuff out of him, and runs ~6k. He's not going to win a league for you or anything, but can definitely hold his own in Diamond and will pile up achievements too.

[Orcin]

Larry Dierker is still doing well for me in Perfect. I used him in the rotation two years ago and he put up a 4.50 ERA in 20+ starts.

[Joshrapley]

Is there the opinion that LHP with low Movement get beaten badly when you get up to Diamond?

I have Carl Hubbell and Steve Carlton in a .900 HR park who are performing very well for me but I swear I have read somewhere to avoid this combination at all costs.

[mess]

Originally Posted by Joshrapley

Is there the opinion that LHP with low Movement get beaten badly when you get up to Diamond?

I have Carl Hubbell and Steve Carlton in a .900 HR park who are performing very well for me but I swear I have read somewhere to avoid this combination at all costs.

It's simply the fact that most of the top batters have very good LHP splits.

[<Pion>]

Originally Posted by Joshrapley

Is there the opinion that LHP with low Movement get beaten badly when you get up to Diamond?

Take a look here...
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...=298077&page=2

I'm hoping to see if there are some conclusions (based on larger sample sizes) that differ from what was suggested. The ERAs of LHP to RHP does reverse direction as the level gets higher, but I wonder if it's the quality of LHP that is lacking rather than just the fact they are LHP.

[Joshrapley]

Originally Posted by <Pion>

Take a look here...
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...=298077&page=2

I'm hoping to see if there are some conclusions (based on larger sample sizes) that differ from what was suggested. The ERAs of LHP to RHP does reverse direction as the level gets higher, but I wonder if it's the quality of LHP that is lacking rather than just the fact they are LHP.

This is exactly where I saw it, just couldn't remember the title of the thread!

[|ChelseaNS]

90 Peters, 98 Syndergard, 93 Cone and 91 Carpenter are right around 10k. These are about as high up the charts you can get and stay under 10k

[Orcin]

Originally Posted by |ChelseaNS

90 Peters, 98 Syndergard, 93 Cone and 91 Carpenter are right around 10k. These are about as high up the charts you can get and stay under 10k

The 92 Kershaw and 91 Beckett are right there also.

[Morug]

90 Roger Clemens is not bad too.

[Dogberry99]

Originally Posted by <Pion>

Take a look here...
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...=298077&page=2

I'm hoping to see if there are some conclusions (based on larger sample sizes) that differ from what was suggested. The ERAs of LHP to RHP does reverse direction as the level gets higher, but I wonder if it's the quality of LHP that is lacking rather than just the fact they are LHP.

I believe 100% that the poor quality of the best LHPs is part of what is driving this backlash towards the southpaws.

I personally believe the most telling card will be the 86 OVR 2015 Keuchel, whose late release has resulted in far less data to add to the analysis. For those of you prone to make such estimations, is there a LHP with a better projected FIP that the historic Keuchel?


Edit: and to remain germane to the original intent of this thread, I did purchase my historic Keuchel for less than 10k points. Unfortunately, that no longer appears to be the case. It probably should have never been the case at all, but overall ratings of 86 aren't supposed to be indicative of one of the best pitchers in the game normally, so... *shrugs*

[DonkeyKongSr]

Originally Posted by Dogberry99

I believe 100% that the poor quality of the best LHPs is part of what is driving this backlash towards the southpaws.

I personally believe the most telling card will be the 86 OVR 2015 Keuchel, whose late release has resulted in far less data to add to the analysis. For those of you prone to make such estimations, is there a LHP with a better projected FIP that the historic Keuchel?


Edit: and to remain germane to the original intent of this thread, I did purchase my historic Keuchel for less than 10k points. Unfortunately, that no longer appears to be the case. It probably should have never been the case at all, but overall ratings of 86 aren't supposed to be indicative of one of the best pitchers in the game normally, so... *shrugs*

Carl Hubbell (97) and Perfect Randy have higher projected FIP on the ASURay formula. Randy & Dallas are pretty much a wash when it comes to vR.

I too got Keuchel back before he took off. I got him at 9500, which is ~1/3 his current Past 5. I didn't even realize he was a new card when I grabbed him. His price might not be done rising yet.