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Old 08-24-2013, 02:17 PM   #221
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I'm not 100% sure, because they don't really talk about that stuff, but I think you're wrong with that assumption.

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They're both listed equally as managing directors of the company.
I'd always understood that Andreas and Markus were co-owners of OOTP Developments. I'm not 100% certain of that though.
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:21 PM   #222
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Very well said Bru. I'm still waiting for that public apology from Andreas to Wolf.

I think I'm going to report Andreas for trolling. Just maybe that will get his attention that he needs to correct himself (but don't worry, I'm not going to hold my breath to that).
Well, Andreas has brought so much entertainment into my life with OOTPB that I, for one, would cut him slack as well. I was just a bit taken aback, that's all. No one should be singled out for expressing an opinion unless a forum rule was breached, and none was by Mr. Wolf at all. Even if that were true, I think somebody mentioned a while back in this thread that a simple exchange of PMs would have been more appropriate. Somehow, I think Andreas realizes that now.
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Who says? You?

If he wants to follow them that is great. If he doesn't want to follow them who is going to warn him? Its "their" forum and I think they are allowed to use it how they would like. I don't think it is a battle you can win so I would just let it go.
I say. Because it is common courtesy. The rest of your post is true. However, and especially since it is "their" forum, they above all should lead by example.
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Remember this thread the next time someone goes all "holier than thou" over OTD.

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I'd always understood that Andreas and Markus were co-owners of OOTP Developments. I'm not 100% certain of that though.
That is my understanding as well, but I'm not going to correct someone without the weight of facts behind me, and the impressum listing them both as managing directors is the best I can do without deep-diving into German company records.
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:32 PM   #226
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You may be right. In the end, I think a lot of interesting things were discussed in this thread. I have a much clearer view of how storylines work and a huge hope that they live up to their potential.

I love this forum, but wouldn't want to be in charge of it. That being said, it's very well run and for the most part very well behaved. Sure we end up in some spats, but heck sometimes it gets cramped in the dugout.
Yeah, there were a lot of good and interesting things said here. I like having storylines and hope like you that they do live up to their potential. As some have said, the SL's are a work in progress. If some don't think they are worth using right now, I'm okay with that. On the other hand, if others wish to use them as they are, I;m okay with that too. I just want everyone to be happy with OOTP. Turn on or off whatever will make your game the most enjoyable.

As for the forums, I wouldn't want to be in charge of it either. I do like how they are run and how most behave. It is unfortunate that sometimes we end up with some spats but that's to be expected.
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Markus and I founded OOTP Developments together in 2003 (10 years ago now, wow) and each of us has full permission to represent the company alone.
I started this thread on my own and I don't even know if Markus saw it yet.

The problem with exchanging PMs with Mr. Wolf is that it wouldn't change his behaviour at all. It would even motivate him, I guess

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So there's one hero and a lot of sheeps or what? The wolf is always right and the others are idiots. Thank you

Dear forum users, please accept my apologies for starting a thread about the misbehaviour of another forum user.

Mr. Wolf and the others who are so high on the users' ignore list (which I check frequently): please think twice before you hijack a discussion about game features, suggestions or bugs.

Please forgive me that I close the thread now, I feel it's all said. If something's missing, send me a PM and I'll add it here.

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