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09-29-2018, 01:48 PM | #1 |
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Do coaches change talent?
Get better or worse in areas, or are their initial skills permanent barring commissioner mode editing?
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09-29-2018, 02:53 PM | #2 |
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Initial skills are definitely not permanent unless you disable player development in your settings. Players can (and certainly will) receive talent boosts/drops over time. There is a setting called 'talent change randomness' that affects how frequently that happens. The rating ranges from 1-200 and defaults at 100 for every save game.
I don't play with coaches on, but I believe they have more of an effect on how fast players develop towards their talents and which areas develop quicker rather than affecting future talent levels, I could be wrong on that though. |
09-29-2018, 04:24 PM | #3 |
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My impression is they may influence ratings changes in a positive direction. I hope they don't boost talent. I consider talent mostly inherent.
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09-29-2018, 04:45 PM | #4 |
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I believe he's asking if coaching skills/talent change, the actual skills the Coach has. Does a hitting instructor improve his skills as an instructor with time and experience?
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09-29-2018, 05:07 PM | #5 |
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Duh, a swing and miss from me.
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09-29-2018, 05:29 PM | #6 |
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they can change, but not quickly that i've seen. i don't think massive changes occur overnight or anything. **based more on historical experience than specifically '19.
you can definitely see it tick up/down 1-2 if you open editor and compare to an 'old' screenshot or something. more like how personality changes overtime, but even slower. we can't even see these ratings. we can't even deduce anything from the profiles, unless we need to parse every word, lol. we can see if they are skewed one way or another - pitching, power,. young, old etc.., but that only shows one rating is higher and not whether it's 1/200 vs 35/200 or something competent like 100 vs 156. the higher numbered trait would get the "works well with ...." message in profile. that's all it tells us. can't determine amplitude. |
09-29-2018, 05:53 PM | #7 |
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Thanks for the answers, I suppose it makes sense that a bad rookie league coach isn't going to grow into the next Casey Stengel.
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10-01-2018, 11:48 AM | #8 |
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how do you know they are bad?
reputation is 95% team and 5% coach's ratings. (or less, more likely) i've never tried to find ways to sniff them out. maybe the verbage is more select and gives a 50/50 shot etc -- doesn't look that way to me, superficially... maybe, the better ratings may provide better relationships, all other factors remaining the same, but that stuff is clouded by numerous other factors if you tried to apply it. even so, there may be some way to improve the probability of finding a good coach. i'd love to know if they are even important anymore? have they been trivialized? deprecated? even if still in use, it's a small piece of the pie. development would probably be the biggest concern, then maybe the influence on a select few players' willingness to sign. Last edited by NoOne; 10-01-2018 at 11:49 AM. |
10-01-2018, 12:37 PM | #9 |
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Yes, the coach's ratings do change over time, but it takes a while... so for someone being poorly talented to become a great coach will probably take between 20-30 years, if at all.
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10-02-2018, 10:59 AM | #10 |
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Blogged!
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10-03-2018, 10:50 AM | #11 |
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My experience in keeping my minor leagues humming is to turn ex-players into coaches, especially hall-of-famers. Their ability in their field (hitting or pitching) can be quite strong.
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10-03-2018, 02:31 PM | #12 |
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That's a great suggestion. It also puts some interest in the recruiting process which is otherwise anonymous and forgettable.
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10-06-2018, 03:05 PM | #13 | |
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I'd like to see this become a more automated process, with AI teams sticking their retiring veterans in Rookie league coaching positions. |
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