1871 outfielders (Spritze's DB)

Elysian Fields · 05-27-2012, 02:18 PM

I'm getting my super perfect league setup to start in 1871. I'm using Spritze's and Gambo's db from last year and spritze's updated work for 2013.

The 1871 outfielders all come in to the game as only being right fielders. Is it required that I change them to the outfield position they played or change some to the other outfield positions... or will the game just sort these players out putting them in a position?

I'm not doing recalc, but development for this game.

Cheers!

Bryce Harper gives me a tingle.

Spritze · 05-27-2012, 06:24 PM

The game will sort them out but based on 1990's usage patterns.

FYI - in 1871 the best OF played LF - Second best CF - worst RF.

Elysian Fields · 05-27-2012, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spritze

The game will sort them out but based on 1990's usage patterns.

FYI - in 1871 the best OF played LF - Second best CF - worst RF.

Cool. I was hopeful such would be the case. Kind of like how a softball outfield arrays itself.

thehef · 05-28-2012, 01:27 AM

Isn't it currently impossible to use a modded db in v13?

Spritze · 05-28-2012, 04:18 AM

No it is not as long as it contains a set of the correct odb files.

thehef · 05-28-2012, 12:25 PM

Right. But in another thread I thought it was determined that Markus is the only one who knows the secret squirrel sauce required of the ODB files, and therefore, the only db options are the ones that come with the game: the standard Lahman one and the park neutered Garlon/Spritze one.

Am I misunderstanding?

Spritze · 05-28-2012, 12:35 PM

Markus is the only one who allows ODB creation. It is covered by a non-disclosure agreement so that it is not disclosed without his express written permission. That is the "secret sauce" part.

Neither I nor any of the others who have been disclosed per the above have any idea how it works. It is pretty much magic but without the girl in the skimpy costume (unless you consider Andreas for that part).

Elysian Fields · 05-28-2012, 01:20 PM

So no Negro Leaguers and Asians then?

Spritze · 05-28-2012, 02:18 PM

There are if you use the Spritze High School db or the Gambo non-high school db. For OOTP12 and/or OOTP13.

Elysian Fields · 05-28-2012, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spritze

There are if you use the Spritze High School db or the Gambo non-high school db. For OOTP12 and/or OOTP13.

Cool, I think I'm using that.

thehef · 05-28-2012, 03:33 PM

Quote:

There are if you use the Spritze High School db or the Gambo non-high school db. For OOTP12 and/or OOTP13.

Ok... So, if I am using one of the in-game db's or another db that just so happens to come w an odb file, then I am good. If, however, I want to use another db - like, for example - a hybrid that I have cobbled together myself - I am not good and therefore will need to be content with OOTP 12. Yes?

Spritze · 05-28-2012, 03:53 PM

Yes

Spritze · 05-28-2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elysian Fields

spritze's updated work for 2013. .........
Bryce Harper gives me a tingle.

Bryce Harper is in the latest Spritze High School for OOTP13 version updated today.

Elysian Fields · 05-28-2012, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spritze

Bryce Harper is in the latest Spritze High School for OOTP13 version updated today.

Very cool.

golander40 · 05-28-2012, 05:42 PM

I believe I replace the Stats folder when I import your DB,but when I start a league do I point to Historical ODB (as in the past) or do I point it to Stats (or Master) ??
Thanks Much
Gil The Ancient One

Spritze · 05-28-2012, 06:56 PM

As in the past which befits an ancient one.

golander40 · 05-28-2012, 07:26 PM

LOL---Well said.
One last question--I hope.
Does your latest "Random debut" work in 13 ?----and does it load the same way ?----Annnnnddddd do you have a "Random Debut" DB,no Japanese ?-----annnddddd--most important to me--I use your DB in 12,if I change your DB in 12,to the "Random Debut" DB-will it work in my existing league,with next draft ? (started in 1939--now in 1942--I play out games,takes some time).
I hope these questions make sense,but then again I am "Ancient"
Thanks Much For Your Time
Gil The Ancient One

Elysian Fields · 05-28-2012, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golander40

I believe I replace the Stats folder when I import your DB,but when I start a league do I point to Historical ODB (as in the past) or do I point it to Stats (or Master) ??
Thanks Much
Gil The Ancient One

I think it goes to right file/folder/whatever by default per my checking the imports of different historical years.

I know I've not changed anything in the setup to see Negro Leaguers be listed as free agents at the start of say 1901 or 1928.

Spritze · 05-29-2012, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golander40

LOL---Well said.
One last question--I hope.
Does your latest "Random debut" work in 13 ? YES----and does it load the same way ?YES----Annnnnddddd do you have a "Random Debut" DB,no Japanese ?I don't think so-----annnddddd--most important to me--I use your DB in 12,if I change your DB in 12,to the "Random Debut" DB-will it work in my existing league,with next draft ?YES (started in 1939--now in 1942--I play out games,takes some time).
I hope these questions make sense,but then again I am "Ancient"
Thanks Much For Your Time
Gil The Ancient One

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swampdragon · 05-29-2012, 11:25 AM

It should be noted that the new OOTP13 Spritze database seems to do a much better job of importing 1871 players than either the previous version or the Lahman.

05-27-2012, 02:18 PM	#1
Elysian Fields Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 470	1871 outfielders (Spritze's DB) I'm getting my super perfect league setup to start in 1871. I'm using Spritze's and Gambo's db from last year and spritze's updated work for 2013. The 1871 outfielders all come in to the game as only being right fielders. Is it required that I change them to the outfield position they played or change some to the other outfield positions... or will the game just sort these players out putting them in a position? I'm not doing recalc, but development for this game. Cheers! Bryce Harper gives me a tingle.

05-27-2012, 06:24 PM	#2
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	The game will sort them out but based on 1990's usage patterns. FYI - in 1871 the best OF played LF - Second best CF - worst RF. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

05-28-2012, 04:18 AM	#5
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	No it is not as long as it contains a set of the correct odb files. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

05-28-2012, 12:35 PM	#7
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	Markus is the only one who allows ODB creation. It is covered by a non-disclosure agreement so that it is not disclosed without his express written permission. That is the "secret sauce" part. Neither I nor any of the others who have been disclosed per the above have any idea how it works. It is pretty much magic but without the girl in the skimpy costume (unless you consider Andreas for that part). __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

05-28-2012, 02:18 PM	#9
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	There are if you use the Spritze High School db or the Gambo non-high school db. For OOTP12 and/or OOTP13. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

05-28-2012, 01:27 AM	#4
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,842	Isn't it currently impossible to use a modded db in v13?

05-28-2012, 12:25 PM	#6
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,842	Right. But in another thread I thought it was determined that Markus is the only one who knows the secret squirrel sauce required of the ODB files, and therefore, the only db options are the ones that come with the game: the standard Lahman one and the park neutered Garlon/Spritze one. Am I misunderstanding?

05-28-2012, 01:20 PM	#8
Elysian Fields Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 470	So no Negro Leaguers and Asians then?

05-28-2012, 03:53 PM	#12
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	ODB Question Answered with Trutasticismness Yes __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

05-28-2012, 05:42 PM	#15
golander40 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 325	ODB or Stats ? I believe I replace the Stats folder when I import your DB,but when I start a league do I point to Historical ODB (as in the past) or do I point it to Stats (or Master) ?? Thanks Much Gil The Ancient One

05-28-2012, 06:56 PM	#16
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	As in the past which befits an ancient one. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

05-28-2012, 07:26 PM	#17
golander40 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 325	Lol LOL---Well said. One last question--I hope. Does your latest "Random debut" work in 13 ?----and does it load the same way ?----Annnnnddddd do you have a "Random Debut" DB,no Japanese ?-----annnddddd--most important to me--I use your DB in 12,if I change your DB in 12,to the "Random Debut" DB-will it work in my existing league,with next draft ? (started in 1939--now in 1942--I play out games,takes some time). I hope these questions make sense,but then again I am "Ancient" Thanks Much For Your Time Gil The Ancient One

05-29-2012, 11:25 AM	#20
swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,509	It should be noted that the new OOTP13 Spritze database seems to do a much better job of importing 1871 players than either the previous version or the Lahman. __________________ “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." -- C.S. Lewis