Disabling player retirement

subtle · 07-05-2018, 09:54 PM

I can see these threads get made every few versions, but I think the question deserves to be asked, again: Would it be very difficult to have a check box for disabling player retirement?

There's already a way to disable player development, injuries, suspensions, the financial system, and the player chemistry and morale systems. At that point, you've eliminated any need for a player to retire. They will never make any money, they will never be unhappy, and their ability will never decline.

I just thought it would be fun to have a league where the players you start with can keep going as long as you want. Obviously, you can unretire players, but they will just retire, again. You could make them younger but who wants to go through an entire league and change every player's age every so often?

Maybe this feature was added somewhere in a recent version and I just can't find it?

This isn't a complaint so much as it is a request for a feature override similar to other overrides that already exist.

Critical Mass · 07-06-2018, 12:56 AM

So then there's no new players and no draft, right? Just a league of 60-year old pot-bellied old guys playing as well as a 23-year old?

The Game · 07-06-2018, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by subtle

I can see these threads get made every few versions, but I think the question deserves to be asked, again: Would it be very difficult to have a check box for disabling player retirement?

There's already a way to disable player development, injuries, suspensions, the financial system, and the player chemistry and morale systems. At that point, you've eliminated any need for a player to retire. They will never make any money, they will never be unhappy, and their ability will never decline.

I just thought it would be fun to have a league where the players you start with can keep going as long as you want. Obviously, you can unretire players, but they will just retire, again. You could make them younger but who wants to go through an entire league and change every player's age every so often?

Maybe this feature was added somewhere in a recent version and I just can't find it?

This isn't a complaint so much as it is a request for a feature override similar to other overrides that already exist.

If you set a top age it will lengthen the time a player plays as well as lowering the aging modifier. I have a test Star Wars league. Yoda is almost 900 and going strong after 6 seasons as a SS career .363 hitter.

darkcloud4579 · 07-06-2018, 06:22 AM

As others have said, this would cause massive development havoc in-game and it'd never really work well.

Status quo, you can lower your aging modifiers to .100 (which I have done in previous versions) and you can also unretire a guy whenever you feel like it, which I've also done with guys who still "seem to have it" even if it's a hall of famer who I feel like should come back at age 50 for some reason.

But I can't imagine how the game would handle a league full of aging dudes clogging the database when young guys are constantly being created too, because perpetually old guys would just end up in FA and would eventually keep retiring anyway.

mgom27 · 07-06-2018, 07:28 AM

Know it would be interesting. So would an Unretire all button. Also let guys unretire on their own.

Winnipeg59 · 07-06-2018, 09:22 AM

This could be an opportunity for an entirely new spin-off game in the franchise!

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Reggie · 07-06-2018, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Critical Mass

So then there's no new players and no draft, right? Just a league of 60-year old pot-bellied old guys playing as well as a 23-year old?

Every day is old timers day. Actually I wonder what it would look like if I played a game with retired old timers?

Ty Cobb · 07-07-2018, 11:54 AM

My terms are as follows:

A 5 year guaranteed contract worth $12 million a year. A bowl of peaches to be keep in the dugout at all times. A $1 million dollar bonus for winning the batting crown. A new Kimber pistol each season, and one of those ultra cool memory foam pillows, also each season.

Call me when you come to your senses!

The Game · 07-09-2018, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

My terms are as follows:

A 5 year guaranteed contract worth $12 million a year. A bowl of peaches to be keep in the dugout at all times. A $1 million dollar bonus for winning the batting crown. A new Kimber pistol each season, and one of those ultra cool memory foam pillows, also each season.

Call me when you come to your senses!

Critical Mass · 07-09-2018, 09:12 AM

Yeah, disabling retirement is bad enough. Disabling death is only possible for GMs.

Yoda · 07-09-2018, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Game

If you set a top age it will lengthen the time a player plays as well as lowering the aging modifier. I have a test Star Wars league. Yoda is almost 900 and going strong after 6 seasons as a SS career .363 hitter.

Shortshop you have made me, hmmm? SHORT? Think I do not see, what you did? Hmmmm?

When 900 years old you reach, SHORT you will be too.

subtle · 07-11-2018, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Game

If you set a top age it will lengthen the time a player plays as well as lowering the aging modifier. I have a test Star Wars league. Yoda is almost 900 and going strong after 6 seasons as a SS career .363 hitter.

Thanks. This was the kind of thing I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by darkcloud4579

As others have said, this would cause massive development havoc in-game and it'd never really work well.
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I can't see why anyone would disable retirement unless they were also disabling the player development system so it wouldn't be an issue.

You can turn off injuries and fatigue and your players will all play 162 games, which is why I didn't see a reason why, if retirement is just a dice roll like getting injured, we couldn't turn that off, too.

Orioles1966 · 07-11-2018, 12:01 PM

I play larger leagues and most times more players retire than can be replaced and I will have many teams play with incomplete rosters(that's one reason I have suggested a league roster evaluation page).

Most of teams with incomplete rosters finish at the bottom of their league because I don't have time to check every teams roster. I usually stumple across a team that is shorthanded and then fill their roster.

jimmysthebestcop · 07-11-2018, 02:00 PM

So a league of T-800's? Sounds like Skynet is taking over OOTP

Critical Mass · 07-12-2018, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by subtle

You can turn off injuries and fatigue and your players will all play 162 games, which is why I didn't see a reason why, if retirement is just a dice roll like getting injured, we couldn't turn that off, too.

How is retirement a dicroll? Injuries and death are a diceroll. The trick is to have the largest gap between date of Retirement and date of Death

07-05-2018, 09:54 PM	#1
subtle Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 85	Disabling player retirement I can see these threads get made every few versions, but I think the question deserves to be asked, again: Would it be very difficult to have a check box for disabling player retirement? There's already a way to disable player development, injuries, suspensions, the financial system, and the player chemistry and morale systems. At that point, you've eliminated any need for a player to retire. They will never make any money, they will never be unhappy, and their ability will never decline. I just thought it would be fun to have a league where the players you start with can keep going as long as you want. Obviously, you can unretire players, but they will just retire, again. You could make them younger but who wants to go through an entire league and change every player's age every so often? Maybe this feature was added somewhere in a recent version and I just can't find it? This isn't a complaint so much as it is a request for a feature override similar to other overrides that already exist.

07-06-2018, 06:22 AM	#4
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,305 Blog Entries: 32	As others have said, this would cause massive development havoc in-game and it'd never really work well. Status quo, you can lower your aging modifiers to .100 (which I have done in previous versions) and you can also unretire a guy whenever you feel like it, which I've also done with guys who still "seem to have it" even if it's a hall of famer who I feel like should come back at age 50 for some reason. But I can't imagine how the game would handle a league full of aging dudes clogging the database when young guys are constantly being created too, because perpetually old guys would just end up in FA and would eventually keep retiring anyway. __________________ Godfather of Fast-Sim OOTP My Mods: GMExcel 24 Major League Women's Baseball (OOTP24) quickstart Indian Premier League \| 300+ years of baseball quickstart \| Expatriate League quickstart \| Off-Field Injuries Update \| Women's Name File for OOTP \| My (outdated) market calculator & financial spreadsheets

07-06-2018, 07:28 AM	#5
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,520	Know it would be interesting. So would an Unretire all button. Also let guys unretire on their own. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

07-07-2018, 11:54 AM	#8
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 3,937 Blog Entries: 65	I can still hit .315 My terms are as follows: A 5 year guaranteed contract worth $12 million a year. A bowl of peaches to be keep in the dugout at all times. A $1 million dollar bonus for winning the batting crown. A new Kimber pistol each season, and one of those ultra cool memory foam pillows, also each season. Call me when you come to your senses! __________________ “What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss?” “Everyone is an atheist until Templars begin marching in the rain.” Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. Society's tolerance for violent criminals is dumbfounding. "Alinsky works for me now."

07-06-2018, 12:56 AM	#2
Critical Mass Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 273	So then there's no new players and no draft, right? Just a league of 60-year old pot-bellied old guys playing as well as a 23-year old?

07-06-2018, 09:22 AM	#6
Winnipeg59 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,770 Blog Entries: 14	This could be an opportunity for an entirely new spin-off game in the franchise! BOOTIB Barely Out Of The Infield Baseball

07-09-2018, 09:12 AM	#10
Critical Mass Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 273	Yeah, disabling retirement is bad enough. Disabling death is only possible for GMs.

07-11-2018, 12:01 PM	#13
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	I play larger leagues and most times more players retire than can be replaced and I will have many teams play with incomplete rosters(that's one reason I have suggested a league roster evaluation page). Most of teams with incomplete rosters finish at the bottom of their league because I don't have time to check every teams roster. I usually stumple across a team that is shorthanded and then fill their roster.

07-11-2018, 02:00 PM	#14
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,728 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	So a league of T-800's? Sounds like Skynet is taking over OOTP