Rookie losing status despite not crossing rookie threshold

LordKilborn · 11-08-2017, 11:09 AM

I have a rookie pitcher in our online league I specifically did not bring up early enough to cross the rookie threshold last season. On the Player Development screen, it states "To be eligible as a prospect, players must not exceed 75 days of major league service". My player has 64 days.

I routinely have players drop off the PD screen when they cross 75 days, but they do it immediately upon crossing that threshold. In the case of this rookie pitcher, we were in the middle of the offseason - early February - when he suddenly disappeared as a prospect and a rookie.

I know in the ML there are several factors that matter, including innings pitched, plate appearances, and days in the majors, and if a player crosses any of those thresholds, they lose their prospect status and it becomes their rookie year. However, I have not noticed that happening in OOTP; and if so, this rookie should have dropped off the prospect list in the previous season, immediately upon crossing that threshold, not in the middle of the offseason.

My questions are - what happened, why did it happen, did it happen in error, and if so, how can it be fixed?

(The pitcher in question is 24 and pitched 77.2 innings last season.)

Matt Arnold · 11-08-2017, 12:46 PM

For prospects, we will often check if they have rookie status as well, which for pitchers is 50 innings. Once he crossed the innings threshold he lost rookie status. So once you hit the new pre-season, he lost his rookie status, so he no longer shows up on most prospect lists.

LordKilborn · 11-08-2017, 04:36 PM

Then what is the PA threshold for batters? I have a batter something similar happened to - 148 PA (I thought it was 150). 65 days on a ML roster.

Matt Arnold · 11-08-2017, 04:42 PM

130

bwburke94 · 11-16-2017, 09:25 PM

Also, remember that the cutoff is technically 130/131 or 50.0/50.1 (Scott Rolen had 130 AB the year before his rookie year), so any player with less than or equal to 130 AB/50 IP is a rookie, provided they fit the other requirements.

11-08-2017, 11:09 AM	#1
LordKilborn Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 21	Rookie losing status despite not crossing rookie threshold I have a rookie pitcher in our online league I specifically did not bring up early enough to cross the rookie threshold last season. On the Player Development screen, it states "To be eligible as a prospect, players must not exceed 75 days of major league service". My player has 64 days. I routinely have players drop off the PD screen when they cross 75 days, but they do it immediately upon crossing that threshold. In the case of this rookie pitcher, we were in the middle of the offseason - early February - when he suddenly disappeared as a prospect and a rookie. I know in the ML there are several factors that matter, including innings pitched, plate appearances, and days in the majors, and if a player crosses any of those thresholds, they lose their prospect status and it becomes their rookie year. However, I have not noticed that happening in OOTP; and if so, this rookie should have dropped off the prospect list in the previous season, immediately upon crossing that threshold, not in the middle of the offseason. My questions are - what happened, why did it happen, did it happen in error, and if so, how can it be fixed? (The pitcher in question is 24 and pitched 77.2 innings last season.)

11-08-2017, 12:46 PM	#2
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,117	For prospects, we will often check if they have rookie status as well, which for pitchers is 50 innings. Once he crossed the innings threshold he lost rookie status. So once you hit the new pre-season, he lost his rookie status, so he no longer shows up on most prospect lists.

11-08-2017, 04:36 PM	#3
LordKilborn Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 21	Then what is the PA threshold for batters? I have a batter something similar happened to - 148 PA (I thought it was 150). 65 days on a ML roster.

11-08-2017, 04:42 PM	#4
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,117	130

11-16-2017, 09:25 PM	#5
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,443	Also, remember that the cutoff is technically 130/131 or 50.0/50.1 (Scott Rolen had 130 AB the year before his rookie year), so any player with less than or equal to 130 AB/50 IP is a rookie, provided they fit the other requirements.