"I am sorry, but I am not comfortable working in a foreign league"

[JimboGM]

This is the response you get when trying to sign personnel from different countries. This is a significant issue for those of us managing teams in international leagues. In one online league, I have a European team and I cannot sign any personnel because the vast majority are from the US or another non-European country. Even many of the European coaches give that same message and refuse to sign.

Please fix this...or at least add a check box for leagues to remove this option. As it stands, we cannot sign any personnel ourselves.

[SFGiantsFan]

If you enable commissioner mode, then you can sign anyone you want. If you are playing challenge mode then you are just out of luck unfortunately.

[JimboGM]

Originally Posted by SFGiantsFan

If you enable commissioner mode, then you can sign anyone you want. If you are playing challenge mode then you are just out of luck unfortunately.

Challenge mode...or online league, which is where this issue is for me. This seems like it should be a simple fix...a check box to turn this option on or off.

[Lord PichuPal]

I ran into this the other day in a fictional league where two of the lower level minors are in different countries (one is Canadian teams, the lower minor is Mexican and Caribbean teams) and when I tried hiring a coach for my single-A team in Mexico, I kept being told that. Even from guys who were from that part of the world, though eventually I found someone willing.

It's a nice touch but may need some tweaking.

[Kbo17]

Yeah we've run into this in our online league too. I run a team in the Netherlands and well there are only 1 maybe 2 coaches from that country. No one from the US, England, Ireland etc.. will come work for me. It is espically frustrating when I can not find a scout willing to become a scouting director for my team. I don't want to have to relocate because of bug.

It makes since that you don't want coaches going from Japan to the MLB but I feel like lower end American/British coaches would coach in another country. Espically when they understand English in that country and are not getting job offers.

[AirmenSmith]

I had this in challenge mode. A great scout just sat there for 10 years since he didn't want to leave home.

This was also the mlb rosters so I had no other leagues going on.

[Matt Uk]

What would also be useful for that is to have it available as a filter so you don't have to click lots of them only to find that out. If you could remove them from the list it would save a lot of clicking. Or simply have a filter to leave only those interested in signing.

[Rain King]

The issue before was that leagues would get overrun with foreign coaches/managers, so it sounds like it was tweaked too far the other way.

[Woodman19]

I always found it a little frustrating that certain coaches won't go places no matter the money. I mean, sure I probably wouldn't want to go coach a bunch of 18 year olds in short season ball, but if someone offered my unemployed butt $500,000 to do it when I would cost only $80,000 to go somewhere I like should definitely get the job done.

[AirmenSmith]

I also think if you don't have any international leagues then the coach shouldn't say no.

[TanzKommandant]

Huge issue. I'm also coaching in the Netherlands and am unable to fill coaching vacancies because there are next to no Dutch coaches available and coaches from any other country will not come in.

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by Woodman19

I always found it a little frustrating that certain coaches won't go places no matter the money. I mean, sure I probably wouldn't want to go coach a bunch of 18 year olds in short season ball, but if someone offered my unemployed butt $500,000 to do it when I would cost only $80,000 to go somewhere I like should definitely get the job done.

Not to pile on or turn this into a big grievance thread, but I was always frustrated because it wasn't clear which coaches would or wouldn't consider your offer to coach in rookie ball etc. I also regularly try to reassign bad coaches to lower levels when I take over a team, and they routinely refuse because the job is beneath them (which was particularly frustrating when I had accidentally promoted someone when I meant to demote them!). It would be nice if there were some "guesstimate" indicator along the lines of what there is for draftees that are "hard to sign" or "impossible to sign" for your franchise.

Maybe this is better in 18, but I haven't used coaches in some time because that part of the system was an awful lot of guesswork.

[Woodman19]

They are a picky bunch considering there are so few jobs.

[Scharbach]

Same problem here. Pretty frustrating to not be able to fill vacancies. Hopefully they can get this patched.

[frangipard]

Originally Posted by Lord PichuPal

I ran into this the other day in a fictional league where two of the lower level minors are in different countries (one is Canadian teams, the lower minor is Mexican and Caribbean teams) and when I tried hiring a coach for my single-A team in Mexico, I kept being told that. Even from guys who were from that part of the world, though eventually I found someone willing.

The game needs to be a lot more sophisticated about how it deals with nationalities. It's not unrealistic that 90% of American coaches would pass on working in Europe. But a Belgian getting offered a job in Holland, a Puerto Rican being offered a job in Cuba ... those should be easier sells, especially given that there's no domestic league for them to work in.

I offered a suggestion that the game should recognize linguistic barriers, and another that you should be able to create "regional" leagues (e.g. pan-Caribbean or pan-European), instead of strictly national ones, but neither has gotten traction.

[TanzKommandant]

Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

Not to pile on or turn this into a big grievance thread, but I was always frustrated because it wasn't clear which coaches would or wouldn't consider your offer to coach in rookie ball etc. I also regularly try to reassign bad coaches to lower levels when I take over a team, and they routinely refuse because the job is beneath them (which was particularly frustrating when I had accidentally promoted someone when I meant to demote them!). It would be nice if there were some "guesstimate" indicator along the lines of what there is for draftees that are "hard to sign" or "impossible to sign" for your franchise.

Maybe this is better in 18, but I haven't used coaches in some time because that part of the system was an awful lot of guesswork.

This is something I've been hoping for and asking about for years. The feature has existed in the Football Manager series forever to filter out players/coaches who won't sign with you. Can't understand why OOTP can't or won't implement the same feature. It would save so much hassle.

[andyhdz]

Originally Posted by frangipard

The game needs to be a lot more sophisticated about how it deals with nationalities. It's not unrealistic that 90% of American coaches would pass on working in Europe. But a Belgian getting offered a job in Holland, a Puerto Rican being offered a job in Cuba ... those should be easier sells, especially given that there's no domestic league for them to work in.

I offered a suggestion that the game should recognize linguistic barriers, and another that you should be able to create "regional" leagues (e.g. pan-Caribbean or pan-European), instead of strictly national ones, but neither has gotten traction.

You can create leagues based on regions instead of countries that are already pre-defined or you can create them on your own by editing the world file.

[Jamee999]

Originally Posted by frangipard

The game needs to be a lot more sophisticated about how it deals with nationalities. It's not unrealistic that 90% of American coaches would pass on working in Europe. But a Belgian getting offered a job in Holland, a Puerto Rican being offered a job in Cuba ... those should be easier sells, especially given that there's no domestic league for them to work in.

I offered a suggestion that the game should recognize linguistic barriers, and another that you should be able to create "regional" leagues (e.g. pan-Caribbean or pan-European), instead of strictly national ones, but neither has gotten traction.

FM tracks which languages players speak, and how fluently. This might be a good addition to the chemistry system. A guy's morale should (perhaps) drop if he can only speak Korean but everyone else on the roster only knows English or Spanish. But then, over time in the US, the player could learn (basic) English and the morale hit could drop away.

[TheGreenMagnus]

This is ridiculous. For all the things that this game does well, this seems like such a stupid mistake. I am running a team in the CPBL and spend half the off season asking staff to accept contracts.

At the very least, allow me to advertise the position so I have candidates applying rather than clicking on each person.

I play on Challenge mode, but this is ludicrous. Fix this please.

[jpeters1734]

yes it is one of the more annoying features. A way to only see interested candidates would be a great feature.