2013 World Series

BoSoxFan · 10-20-2013, 09:05 PM

So, the dust has settled, and after 7 months of struggling, after all of the ups and downs, everything is down to one series between my Red Sox, and the Cardinals. I think the Red Sox will win this- they just find ways to win, and come through when they need to, and have done so so many times, that I really have run out of doubts of this team. What do you guys think?

Questdog · 10-20-2013, 09:28 PM

I think this season proves Bobby Valentine is the greatest manager in the history of baseball......

The Game · 10-21-2013, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BoSoxFan

So, the dust has settled, and after 7 months of struggling, after all of the ups and downs, everything is down to one series between my Red Sox, and the Cardinals. I think the Red Sox will win this- they just find ways to win, and come through when they need to, and have done so so many times, that I really have run out of doubts of this team. What do you guys think?

I hate the Red Sox but part of me is cheering for them because of the Boston Marathon attack. I also cheered for the Yankees in 2001 and we know what happened there.

jaxmagicman · 10-21-2013, 08:46 AM

I can't think of an outcome I wanted less than this. Now I am forced to root for the Cardinals or the Red Sox. Two of my top 3 least favorite teams.

BoSoxFan · 10-21-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

I can't think of an outcome I wanted less than this. Now I am forced to root for the Cardinals or the Red Sox. Two of my top 3 least favorite teams.

Hey, it could be worse- you could be a Dodgers fan in the 2002 World Series!

Green & Gold Heart · 10-21-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

I can't think of an outcome I wanted less than this. Now I am forced to root for the Cardinals or the Red Sox. Two of my top 3 least favorite teams.

Exactly this. Won't watch, don't care.

fivestarsplash · 10-21-2013, 09:59 AM

you gotta pull for the cardinals. they are the darkhorse here with 17 players drafted and built through their organization on the roster and one half the payroll of the redsox.

Questdog · 10-21-2013, 02:00 PM

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you gotta pull for the cardinals. they are the darkhorse here with 17 players drafted and built through their organization on the roster and one half the payroll of the redsox.

If they weren't such a whining bunch of cry babies, I'd agree.....

David Watts · 10-21-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Questdog

If they weren't such a whining bunch of cry babies, I'd agree.....

No, the Cardinals are in the series, not the Braves

John Madden · 10-21-2013, 02:46 PM

The fanbases of both teams are perfect reasons to root for Stadium Collapse to win.

https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis

BoSoxFan · 10-21-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by John Madden

The fanbases of both teams are perfect reasons to root for Stadium Collapse to win.

https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis

The first tweet I see from a twitter feed called "Baseball's Best Fans":
"Redsox's lineup = a bunch of fags, this should be easy"
Of course, the red Sox led all of baseball in runs scored, OBP, slugging (and thus OPS), and total bases, but i guess that doesn't matter.
EDIT: The only offensive categories the Cardinals lead the Red Sox in (or, at least the ones provided on baseball reference) are strikeouts, sacrifice hits, and runners left on base.

Lukas Berger · 10-21-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by John Madden

The fanbases of both teams are perfect reasons to root for Stadium Collapse to win.

https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis

Oh dear. I like the Cardinals, but those fans...

I'm guessing every team has fans like that though.

Living in New England, I know what Red Sox fans are like from personal experience

So, go Cards!

Orcin · 10-21-2013, 04:00 PM

The Cardinals will win this series.

They have an advantage when the DH is used, because they can get Craig's bat into the lineup.

They have an advantage when the DH is not used because Boston has to put Ortiz on the bench or weaken their defense to play him.

The Cardinals have the hot pitcher (Wacha).

The Cardinals have the best post-season player on either roster (Beltran).

BoSoxFan · 10-21-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

The Cardinals will win this series.

They have an advantage when the DH is used, because they can get Craig's bat into the lineup.

They have an advantage when the DH is not used because Boston has to put Ortiz on the bench or weaken their defense to play him.

The Cardinals have the hot pitcher (Wacha).

The Cardinals have the best post-season player on either roster (Beltran).

How many games do you think?

Lukas Berger · 10-21-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

They have an advantage when the DH is used, because they can get Craig's bat into the lineup.

They have an advantage when the DH is not used because Boston has to put Ortiz on the bench or weaken their defense to play him.

I do think the Cards are the better team. And I love Beltran and Wacha.

But as for the points above, I don't really think there's enough of a difference between Napoli and Ortiz's defense (roughly 10 runs per season, 0 WAR for Napoli to -1.0 WAR for Ortiz) to make a difference over the course of three games.

And I don't see that playing Craig at DH is any advantage for the Cards. The Red Sox get to get either Napoli or Ortiz back in the lineup when the DH is in play and Napoli and Craig are a wash offensively, while Ortiz is better than Craig.

Orcin · 10-21-2013, 04:26 PM

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And I don't see that playing Craig at DH is any advantage for the Cards. The Red Sox get to get either Napoli or Ortiz back in the lineup when the DH is in play and Napoli and Craig are a wash offensively, while Ortiz is better than Craig.

With DH: The Cardinals offense is much better with Craig in the lineup instead of the pitcher. Boston's lineup is the same as normal.

Without DH: The Cardinals' lineup is the same as normal. The Red Sox have to give up one of their best offensive players.

Orcin · 10-21-2013, 04:27 PM

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How many games do you think?

As many as it takes to win 4.

BoSoxFan · 10-21-2013, 04:44 PM

Remember, the Red Sox have been to two WS where they had to play in an NL ballpark and not have the DH, and it's been just fine.

Westheim · 10-21-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by John Madden

The fanbases of both teams are perfect reasons to root for Stadium Collapse to win.

https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis

I passionately hate Twitter. This serves as proof why. What a collection of retards.

I wholeheartedly agree with the collapse portion of your post.

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Remember, the Red Sox have been to two WS where they had to play in an NL ballpark and not have the DH, and it's been just fine.

That doesn't include '86, does it?

Ah, a Mets fans' three seconds in the sun.

BoSoxFan · 10-21-2013, 05:23 PM

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That doesn't include '86, does it?

Ah, a Mets fans' three seconds in the sun.

He mentioned Big Papi, so those are the examples that I gave.

10-20-2013, 09:05 PM	#1
BoSoxFan Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 480	2013 World Series So, the dust has settled, and after 7 months of struggling, after all of the ups and downs, everything is down to one series between my Red Sox, and the Cardinals. I think the Red Sox will win this- they just find ways to win, and come through when they need to, and have done so so many times, that I really have run out of doubts of this team. What do you guys think?

10-21-2013, 08:46 AM	#4
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Questdog Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases...... Posts: 16,142	I think this season proves Bobby Valentine is the greatest manager in the history of baseball......

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fivestarsplash Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1 Infractions: 0/1 (4)	you gotta pull for the cardinals. they are the darkhorse here with 17 players drafted and built through their organization on the roster and one half the payroll of the redsox.

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Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	The Cardinals will win this series. They have an advantage when the DH is used, because they can get Craig's bat into the lineup. They have an advantage when the DH is not used because Boston has to put Ortiz on the bench or weaken their defense to play him. The Cardinals have the hot pitcher (Wacha). The Cardinals have the best post-season player on either roster (Beltran).

10-21-2013, 04:44 PM	#18
BoSoxFan Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 480	Remember, the Red Sox have been to two WS where they had to play in an NL ballpark and not have the DH, and it's been just fine.