Bring Back The Stars!!!!

ForemanFan · 05-31-2006, 09:56 PM

Oh man, it's funny how you never know how much you dig something until it's gone. The out-of-five-star rating system was fantastic and was often how I judged players for potential trades or drafts, or even their future in my system. Now, it takes forever and a day to find out how good a player is and consumes FAR too much of the overall game experience. It should be a no-brainer system, particularly with established players. I mean, everyone and his brother knows how good someone like Pujols is, his strengths and weaknesses, so why in the world should we have to scout someone like him?? I can understand scouting for minor leaguers or hidden talents and such, but not for the majority of guys in the Bigs. Ah, well, c'est la vie.

Hotwheelz · 05-31-2006, 09:59 PM

I miss it as a way to quickly glance through a large group of players.

Cras · 05-31-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotwheelz

I miss it as a way to quickly glance through a large group of players.

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Jason · 05-31-2006, 10:11 PM

I understand what you guys are saying but I completely disagree. I'm glad the stars are gone because it brings a little more challenge into it (IMO).

Theonlystd · 05-31-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale And Eli's Dad

I understand what you guys are saying but I completely disagree. I'm glad the stars are gone because it brings a little more challenge into it (IMO).

i dont want that challenge

Kelric · 05-31-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotwheelz

I miss it as a way to quickly glance through a large group of players.

Agreed.

DAED - IMO it would have been much better to simply have the stars as an option rather than eliminating them completely. Now I have no idea how good my minor league players are when looking at them on my transaction screen without going through them one... by one... by about 150.

sfgiants88 · 05-31-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotwheelz

I miss it as a way to quickly glance through a large group of players.

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Jason · 05-31-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelric

Agreed.

DAED - IMO it would have been much better to simply have the stars as an option rather than eliminating them completely. Now I have no idea how good my minor league players are when looking at them on my transaction screen without going through them one... by one... by about 150.

You can have one of your scouts scout the entire organization and then you can look at your players through the main roster screens instead of one by one.

Syd Thrift · 05-31-2006, 10:19 PM

My problem with the stars is that all too often they weren't terribly accurate. Anyway, I like the new version better: if I want a scout to tell me his opinion of a guy's ability, that's great, but it's not sitting right up there next to his name every time I look at him. It does make it harder to look at large groups of people and sort them out, yes. That's what scouts are for, and furthermore I like the fact that you can only really get a good read on a small portion of the player pool when it's time to make a trade/draft/etc. It keeps you on your toes and in a sense forces you to get immersed in the league.

TheDROCK · 05-31-2006, 10:21 PM

I miss the star rating too. The one problem ive had with the new game is it takes a lot of time to do some stuff that only took a few seconds in the other OOTP versions. Im spending way more time going through lists and way less time playing out any games.

Doughnuts? · 05-31-2006, 10:21 PM

Not even an option for stars? Thats terrible.

Poweshow · 05-31-2006, 10:22 PM

I think *IF* the stars are to come back the should certainly be optional... and Im sure they would be optional. I do miss them, but I enjoy the new challenge. It makes you really have to get involved within your organization. Either way im fine -

CaLíKrAzY · 05-31-2006, 10:22 PM

Make it an option, thats what OOTP does the best...

ForemanFan · 05-31-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

My problem with the stars is that all too often they weren't terribly accurate. Anyway, I like the new version better: if I want a scout to tell me his opinion of a guy's ability, that's great, but it's not sitting right up there next to his name every time I look at him. It does make it harder to look at large groups of people and sort them out, yes. That's what scouts are for, and furthermore I like the fact that you can only really get a good read on a small portion of the player pool when it's time to make a trade/draft/etc. It keeps you on your toes and in a sense forces you to get immersed in the league.

In real life a player's "rating" smacks you in the face every time you pick up a sports page with an article about him. Tell me, even without your not being a Major League scout, am I incorrect to label Pujols or A-Rod as 5 star players? I dig the scout portion of it for certain things only, I just don't want to have to RELY on a scout to tell me just how good every single player in the league is. And as far as making it less challenging, I think there are quite a few other aspects of the game that have that already covered.

At least make it a toggle-able option. That's all. It would increase my zeal for the game ten-fold. . . twenty-fold! Gosh, I love hyperbole. . .

mrbill · 05-31-2006, 10:27 PM

Stars were an option in the past version as well, so if people have disliked them in the past, ideally they have been playing without them for years.

We'll have to see if filters can be made advanced enough to give you the ability to make up for stars.

ozziethesaint · 05-31-2006, 10:28 PM

I agree the Stars need to be brought back as an option. taking them completely out is a huge mistake

smeyers003 · 05-31-2006, 10:30 PM

Yeah I see no reason why stars cannot be optional like displaying ratings and potential. Also the rating is pretty much there already in the scouting reports in relation to the rest of the league. Bringing them back as an option would certainly save a lot of time.

ForemanFan · 05-31-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

My problem with the stars is that all too often they weren't terribly accurate. Anyway, I like the new version better: if I want a scout to tell me his opinion of a guy's ability, that's great, but it's not sitting right up there next to his name every time I look at him. It does make it harder to look at large groups of people and sort them out, yes. That's what scouts are for, and furthermore I like the fact that you can only really get a good read on a small portion of the player pool when it's time to make a trade/draft/etc. It keeps you on your toes and in a sense forces you to get immersed in the league.

Usually their inaccuracy had much to do with the quality/ability of the scouts. Sure, the scouts were involved then but it was much simpler and more basic. Then again, like someone posted above, in earlier versions you could toggle it on or off, which made it attractive to the casual and serious gamer alike.

I'm sure Markus and Co. will eventually make it an option. *crosses fingers*

edrooney · 05-31-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale And Eli's Dad

I understand what you guys are saying but I completely disagree. I'm glad the stars are gone because it brings a little more challenge into it (IMO).

I totally agree with this. I hated the stars in OOTP previous versions. I wanted to decide, based om ratings and history, the relative value of players. The stars took any challenge out of it. Why include ratings or stats? Just base all things on stars. A fun game.

RBLwebguy · 05-31-2006, 10:31 PM

for the record...I did lobby for them

05-31-2006, 09:56 PM	#1
ForemanFan Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles (Heaven -- pfffft!) Posts: 201	Bring Back The Stars!!!! Oh man, it's funny how you never know how much you dig something until it's gone. The out-of-five-star rating system was fantastic and was often how I judged players for potential trades or drafts, or even their future in my system. Now, it takes forever and a day to find out how good a player is and consumes FAR too much of the overall game experience. It should be a no-brainer system, particularly with established players. I mean, everyone and his brother knows how good someone like Pujols is, his strengths and weaknesses, so why in the world should we have to scout someone like him?? I can understand scouting for minor leaguers or hidden talents and such, but not for the majority of guys in the Bigs. Ah, well, c'est la vie. __________________ The best lack all conviction, while the worst are filled with a passionate intensity. George is comin' back. . . again!

05-31-2006, 10:27 PM	#15
mrbill All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LA, CA Posts: 982	Stars were an option in the past version as well, so if people have disliked them in the past, ideally they have been playing without them for years. We'll have to see if filters can be made advanced enough to give you the ability to make up for stars. __________________ UBL - Best Online League Evar! - Los Angeles Dodgers: 25 seasons, 13 NL West titles, 4 WC, 8 NL Titles, 5-time Champs LBB v5 league (retired) - Detroit Tigers/Commish: 19 seasons, 18 straight AL Central titles, 2006, 2008, 2014, 2015 Champs! NGBL v6 league (dead) - Texas Rangers: 10 seasons, 4 AL South titles, 2 Wild Cards, one WS app

05-31-2006, 09:59 PM	#2
Hotwheelz All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,617	I miss it as a way to quickly glance through a large group of players.

05-31-2006, 10:11 PM	#4
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,827 Blog Entries: 3	I understand what you guys are saying but I completely disagree. I'm glad the stars are gone because it brings a little more challenge into it (IMO).

05-31-2006, 10:19 PM	#9
Syd Thrift Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,036	My problem with the stars is that all too often they weren't terribly accurate. Anyway, I like the new version better: if I want a scout to tell me his opinion of a guy's ability, that's great, but it's not sitting right up there next to his name every time I look at him. It does make it harder to look at large groups of people and sort them out, yes. That's what scouts are for, and furthermore I like the fact that you can only really get a good read on a small portion of the player pool when it's time to make a trade/draft/etc. It keeps you on your toes and in a sense forces you to get immersed in the league.

05-31-2006, 10:21 PM	#10
TheDROCK Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 210	I miss the star rating too. The one problem ive had with the new game is it takes a lot of time to do some stuff that only took a few seconds in the other OOTP versions. Im spending way more time going through lists and way less time playing out any games.

05-31-2006, 10:21 PM	#11
Doughnuts? All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 704	Not even an option for stars? Thats terrible.

05-31-2006, 10:22 PM	#12
Poweshow Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 243 Infractions: 0/3 (3)	I think IF the stars are to come back the should certainly be optional... and Im sure they would be optional. I do miss them, but I enjoy the new challenge. It makes you really have to get involved within your organization. Either way im fine -

05-31-2006, 10:22 PM	#13
CaLíKrAzY All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Costa Mesa, CaLí Posts: 722	Make it an option, thats what OOTP does the best...

05-31-2006, 10:28 PM	#16
ozziethesaint Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Peoria IL Posts: 831	I agree the Stars need to be brought back as an option. taking them completely out is a huge mistake

05-31-2006, 10:30 PM	#17
smeyers003 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 416	Yeah I see no reason why stars cannot be optional like displaying ratings and potential. Also the rating is pretty much there already in the scouting reports in relation to the rest of the league. Bringing them back as an option would certainly save a lot of time.

05-31-2006, 10:31 PM	#20
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,157	for the record...I did lobby for them