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franco74 · 02-16-2005, 01:37 PM

on my previous computer I had :
xp SP1
direct x 9 c
SB audigy 5.12 drivers
version 6.03 version of game

all worked fine

on my new laptop

game crashes

xp sp 2
direct x 9c
ac 97 5.10 drivers
version 6.11

I've tried keeping the default resolution at 1024 *726 -
its obviuosly a sound problem -

this is very dissapointing - I really enjoy the sounds
is it a version problem - can we get 6.03 back

BigCity · 02-16-2005, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franco74

is it a version problem

Nope. It's the fact that OOTP6 was designed for DirectX 9.0 and so any other combination is problematic.

franco74 · 02-16-2005, 03:15 PM

but my first computer had 9c not 9.0

and it worked ???

BigCity · 02-16-2005, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franco74

but my first computer had 9c not 9.0

and it worked ???

With SP1, yes. SP1, DirectX 9.0, and the audio drivers at the time likely worked for everyone... but once one of those gets updated, then all bets are off.

Greg B · 02-16-2005, 05:03 PM

So, should we be pissed at Microsoft, not OOTP?

BigCity · 02-17-2005, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg B

So, should we be pissed at Microsoft, not OOTP?

Aren't we already ???

It's actually not Microsoft's fault either. It's the price of progress. The technology is always growing by leaps and bounds and is so complex that every variable can't be checked without a huge technical staff and effort. Even Microsoft's stuff doesn't work together all the time (stop by their website and take a gander through their Knowledgebase articles). There's no chance in the world that Markus could test against every configuration possibility. He has to rely on the vendor to "do it right" and we already know what that means.

The good news is that his joining SI will give him access to code and resources that have had the opportunity to do more testing that he has - thus resulting in a more stable environemnt under V7.

jim_arrows · 02-22-2005, 01:46 AM

I'm brand new to the game, just got it today, and so far I'd have to say I'm not impressed; my first two games ended with a crash, and now evidently I have to disable in-game sounds in order to complete a game. Gotta say, not a real good start to my OOTP experience...

franco74 · 02-22-2005, 02:59 AM

Yes Jim its very frustrating - I bought the game originally for the sounds (personally I feel like they add alot of depth to my games) and now they don'y work - I hope markus will address this- I was wondering how many people have this problem?

dsvitak · 03-02-2005, 06:54 PM

We need a response to this.

I will NOT disable Windows Service Pack 2, just to run this game with sound.

This is extremely frustrating, a KNOWN issue, yet we have no assurances that this will be fixed.

Sound is critical to the enjoyment of this game, 'cause it sure as heck isn't the graphics.

I strongly desire a response from OOTP Developments on this!

Steve Kuffrey · 03-02-2005, 08:20 PM

Official response:

Markus is fully aware of this issue and has known about it for some time, when I last asked him about this issue NOTHING had been resolved. I'm sure that if anything changes on this front that you will be notified when it is corrected via this forum.

OOTP Development Team

dsvitak · 03-03-2005, 11:12 AM

Steve, thank you for your response.

OOTP6 is the finest game I have ever played, by far.

I think you can appreciate how many thousands and thousands of games I have played, and simulated.

....and we're close....SO close, to the perfect game.

Ragnar · 03-04-2005, 02:47 AM

I've been getting this error after every game now. But I never use to. It was only after I updated DirectX, sound card drivers and vid card drivers. But......my games count......i just reload ootp6, go to schedule and hit simulate day......all games are played so all that comes up is..."finishing day" and all is well.......it's just annoying.

Ragnar · 03-04-2005, 03:12 AM

Update......all i had to do was turn "interface sound" OFF......i still get game sound and no errors.

franco74 · 03-04-2005, 01:26 PM

ok - I will try to just turn interface sound off - and see what happens

Ragnar · 03-04-2005, 08:14 PM

Actually what happens to me now is.......The first game I play after loading OOTP6 I get the error. I know the stats for that game will not count, nor will the pitchers that pitched be tired. Every game after that runs fine.

viperman2005 · 03-06-2005, 06:51 PM

I turned off in game in game sound and I get a crash right when I choose to swing the bat while playing the game I had placed a post some wheres else bfore I saw this sectio and included the txt file that micrsoft windows xp generates hope tht might help find out where the problem is.
using latest direct x and service pack 2 and ingame sound disabled.
thanks craigg

franco74 · 03-10-2005, 03:50 PM

Basically it is the interface sound that is broken not the in game sound - thanks ragner

I have XP SP2, direct x 9c

and the following settings and after 3-4 games --in game sound works well.

under game configuration I have disabled direct 3d (in the startup menu)

under game config.
disable interface sound

franco74 · 03-10-2005, 04:38 PM

well after palying about 10 games , I got maybe 5-6 crashes - so it is more than just disabling the sound interface

I will keep playing with it..

Giants44 · 03-10-2005, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnar

Actually what happens to me now is.......The first game I play after loading OOTP6 I get the error. I know the stats for that game will not count, nor will the pitchers that pitched be tired. Every game after that runs fine.

If it crashes on the first game after loading, isn't EVERY game the first game after loading???

franco74 · 03-10-2005, 08:24 PM

ok I got it to be stable again

I think the variable was not to have my desktop at 1024*768

my desktop res. is 1400 * 1050 - so the game only takes up about 75 % of the screen - I ran 10 games no crashes.

so if you want to try it - just follow my previous post and add the resolution fix to it

03-02-2005, 08:20 PM	#30
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03-06-2005, 06:51 PM	#36
viperman2005 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5	turning off in game sound didn't work for me I turned off in game in game sound and I get a crash right when I choose to swing the bat while playing the game I had placed a post some wheres else bfore I saw this sectio and included the txt file that micrsoft windows xp generates hope tht might help find out where the problem is. using latest direct x and service pack 2 and ingame sound disabled. thanks craigg

03-10-2005, 03:50 PM	#37
franco74 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 117	I Got In Game Sound To Work!!! Basically it is the interface sound that is broken not the in game sound - thanks ragner I have XP SP2, direct x 9c and the following settings and after 3-4 games --in game sound works well. under game configuration I have disabled direct 3d (in the startup menu) under game config. disable interface sound Last edited by franco74; 03-10-2005 at 03:52 PM.

02-16-2005, 01:37 PM	#21
franco74 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 117	on my previous computer I had : xp SP1 direct x 9 c SB audigy 5.12 drivers version 6.03 version of game all worked fine on my new laptop game crashes xp sp 2 direct x 9c ac 97 5.10 drivers version 6.11 I've tried keeping the default resolution at 1024 *726 - its obviuosly a sound problem - this is very dissapointing - I really enjoy the sounds is it a version problem - can we get 6.03 back

02-16-2005, 03:15 PM	#23
franco74 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 117	but my first computer had 9c not 9.0 and it worked ???

02-16-2005, 05:03 PM	#25
Greg B Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24	So, should we be pissed at Microsoft, not OOTP?

02-22-2005, 01:46 AM	#27
jim_arrows Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NoVa Posts: 3	I'm brand new to the game, just got it today, and so far I'd have to say I'm not impressed; my first two games ended with a crash, and now evidently I have to disable in-game sounds in order to complete a game. Gotta say, not a real good start to my OOTP experience...

02-22-2005, 02:59 AM	#28
franco74 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 117	Yes Jim its very frustrating - I bought the game originally for the sounds (personally I feel like they add alot of depth to my games) and now they don'y work - I hope markus will address this- I was wondering how many people have this problem?

03-02-2005, 06:54 PM	#29
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,863	We need a response to this. I will NOT disable Windows Service Pack 2, just to run this game with sound. This is extremely frustrating, a KNOWN issue, yet we have no assurances that this will be fixed. Sound is critical to the enjoyment of this game, 'cause it sure as heck isn't the graphics. I strongly desire a response from OOTP Developments on this!

03-03-2005, 11:12 AM	#31
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,863	Steve, thank you for your response. OOTP6 is the finest game I have ever played, by far. I think you can appreciate how many thousands and thousands of games I have played, and simulated. ....and we're close....SO close, to the perfect game.

03-04-2005, 02:47 AM	#32
Ragnar Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,009	I've been getting this error after every game now. But I never use to. It was only after I updated DirectX, sound card drivers and vid card drivers. But......my games count......i just reload ootp6, go to schedule and hit simulate day......all games are played so all that comes up is..."finishing day" and all is well.......it's just annoying.

03-04-2005, 03:12 AM	#33
Ragnar Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,009	Update......all i had to do was turn "interface sound" OFF......i still get game sound and no errors.

03-04-2005, 01:26 PM	#34
franco74 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 117	ok - I will try to just turn interface sound off - and see what happens

03-04-2005, 08:14 PM	#35
Ragnar Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,009	Actually what happens to me now is.......The first game I play after loading OOTP6 I get the error. I know the stats for that game will not count, nor will the pitchers that pitched be tired. Every game after that runs fine.

03-10-2005, 04:38 PM	#38
franco74 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 117	well after palying about 10 games , I got maybe 5-6 crashes - so it is more than just disabling the sound interface I will keep playing with it..

03-10-2005, 08:24 PM	#40
franco74 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 117	ok I got it to be stable again I think the variable was not to have my desktop at 1024768 my desktop res. is 1400 1050 - so the game only takes up about 75 % of the screen - I ran 10 games no crashes. so if you want to try it - just follow my previous post and add the resolution fix to it